Strategy for Massachusetts: Legislature should pass law to not issue marriage licenses until 2006!!

vanity | February 6, 2004 | the eagle has landed

[SuziQ]

I'd seen someone suggest that Gov. Romney give an order to Town Clerks NOT to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples until the citizens of MA had the chance to vote on the matter. Don't know if he could do that, but it works for me!

[PizzaDriver]

Davey Crockett is quoted to have said:
"Be Sure you are right, then go ahead!"

What if the Legislature would pass a law making it clear that ONLY the Elected Legislators can creat new Laws with impunity and immunity from Legal Action. Only "Elected Legislators" can not be sued for damages and costs incurred by their authoring of New Law.
Then, Judges could be taken to court by individuals or Other States, their own assests will be at risk, when Judges write LAWS. Desenting Judges would be protected, Majority Judges could loose homes, cars, pensions, etc.

How sure are these Judges?

[vanmorrison]

I want to see the "good" people of Massachusetts, who have become the most leftist bunch of Democrat-enabling jerks this side of San Francisco, get every crappy result of their asinine politics they've got coming. It couldn't happen to a nicer group of people! Particularly all those brain-dead Democrat Irish Catholics who've propped up the Kennedy gang for so long.

[hunter112]

Are you serious? Forbid new marriages for everyone in the whole state? Aren't you getting a little carried away?

Excellent points! I keep hearing on these threads how gays want to attack the institution of marriage, it would be quite ironic if MA legislators, in the name of defense of marriage, outlawed all marriages for a two year period.

Reminds me of a quote used in Vietnam, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."

[LWalk18]

Gay marriage did not cause the high illegitimacy rate, low marriage in Scandinavia- how long has gay marriage even been valid there? If anything the Scandinavians' marriage and illegimate rate gave the validity to pass gay marriage.

[LWalk18]

I read the article- correlation does not equal causation. Scandinavians have stopped getting formally married long before the legalization of gay marriage, so blame the low marriage rate on gay marriage is absurd.

[kingu]

IMHO, the only real answer is for the legislature to send a curt note to the supreme court stating: "Your attempt to legislate a solution has exceeded your constitutional limits and violated the separation of powers. Your choices are outlined in the decision made; either make them or not. Strike down all the marriage laws in the state as being unconstitutional or not, any other reply will be ignored by this body or result in immediate impeachment for violating your oath of office."

[kingu]

Liberal or conservative, the court can give thumbs up to a law or thumbs down, not create legislation through law, and a liberal should be able to recognize such a thing.

If the legislature is so liberal that they're eager to give out homosexual marriage, they should do so without hiding behind a flawed court decision that will be used as precident for centuries to come.

[Always Right]

I read the article- correlation does not equal causation. Scandinavians have stopped getting formally married long before the legalization of gay marriage

You should always wait at least one sentence before you start to contradict yourself....

[vanmorrison]

...and another thing! As a Catholic in good standing, I never could understand why so many Irish Catholics, like my wife's relatives, and the Catholic clerics and laity alike, continue to support the party of abortion, homosexuality, euthanasia, human cloning, etc.etc., in such large numbers. The fact is, the Catholic community has been in the hip pocket of the Democrat party for far too long. The problems in Massachusetts are just another negative manifestation of this phenomenon.

[RobbyS]

Nullification can still play a role if a state has the guts. Imagine a supreme court decision which a president refuses to enforce. Andrew Jackson did it. The only check on the president would be impeachment. The ultimate check on the court would be to withdraw its authority to act in certain cases. Surely a Constitutional Amendment would be preferable to that.

[RobbyS]

Correct. The Massachusetts Suprement Court is imposing its morality on everyone.

[RobbyS]

In Scandinavia about 70% of all babies are born out of wedlock. The percentage is climbing. People forget that marriage is a practical institution, and that if people no longer perceive it as practical, then they won't bother with it. Once they get the right, gays won't bother with it. All they are concerned about is the status it gives them. If it gives them no special status, they they won't bother.