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To: WackyKat
I hate to break this to you, but no matter where you stand on this case, false rape allegations are OFTEN used to conceal either 1)some form of sexual contact that was NOT supposed to happen because of a relationship or what have you or 2) to extract oneself from trouble with the parents

An example of 1) would be the woman who started the Tailhook scandal by alleging a gang rape took place. It turned out she had a fiance and had participated in an orgy and didn't want him to find out she was a whore.

An example of 2) would be Tawana Brawley.


It's not a victim smear campaign, dolt. It's a man trying to save what's left of his reputation and trying to be free while doing so.
17 posted on 11/21/2003 12:31:05 PM PST by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
You don't have to "break" anything to me, jerk
You don't know anything about this girl, her sex life, or her relationship with her parents, friends etc.
Yet you want to smear her to protect your sports "hero"
You must be very proud of yourself
30 posted on 11/21/2003 12:41:01 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: Skywalk
Save the name calling.

It certainly did nothing to strengthen your argument.
32 posted on 11/21/2003 12:41:38 PM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Skywalk
Don't forget another possible motive: big lawsuit for money after the conviction. The boyfriend may be in on it. Not saying it happened. Just that it's a possibility that shouldn't be overlooked.
153 posted on 11/21/2003 1:32:32 PM PST by B.Bumbleberry
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To: Skywalk
An example of 1) would be the woman who started the Tailhook scandal by alleging a gang rape took place. It turned out she had a fiance and had participated in an orgy and didn't want him to find out she was a whore.

I work with a guy who recently got married. When he was asked about whether he would have strippers or other female "entertainers" for his bachelor party, he said, "Hell no!" Why not? He learned from the mistake of a friend, who had the stereotypical Tom Hanks booze and bimbo fest. In the days afterward, one of the invitees/participants -- who had promised his wife that there wouldn't be any sex at the gathering -- had an attack of conscience, and tearfully spilled the beans to his missus about his activity at the party...as well as everyone else's.

The new marriage was put on life support when word got around, and died shortly thereafter.

If the woman who spouted false Tailhook allegations was lying to conceal her involvement in an orgy (I don't recall the details of the story, and they don't matter much when discussing Kobe anyway), that's easy to explain: There would be plenty of people who could say that she was a part of the action, and if any one of the participants said she was a willing sex partner, she would be toast in a variety of ways.

On the other hand, there was no one who witnessed the sex between Bryant and his accuser. If she made a choice to lie to her key witness about rape to cover up a consensual encounter with Bryant, she could have just said, "We were talking, and he was a perfect gentleman. Nothing happened, don't be silly," and no one could contradict her. Kobe, a notoriously secretive married superstar with a sparkling reputation, would never have walked into the lobby of the resort and said, "She's a great lay!"

Nice try.

246 posted on 11/21/2003 2:06:56 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Skywalk
So, all any rapist can say that the victim is just trying to conceal consensual sex, and that's that. This could revolutionize our legal system. They've already tried this out in Saudi Arabia, and other countries.
313 posted on 11/21/2003 2:51:09 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Skywalk
I hate to break this to you, but no matter where you stand on this case, false rape allegations are OFTEN used to conceal either 1)some form of sexual contact that was NOT supposed to happen because of a relationship or what have you or 2) to extract oneself from trouble with the parents

Break it to me gently. Give me numbers.

What happens more often, rapes or false charges?


424 posted on 11/21/2003 6:07:29 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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