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Terri Schindler Schiavo Guardianship Hearing Wednesday November 5, 2003
www.terrisfight.org ^

Posted on 11/04/2003 9:30:54 PM PST by supercat

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA

PROBATE DIVISION

File No. 90-2908GD-003

 

IN Re: THE GUARDIANSHIP OF

THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO,

Incapacitated.

 

ROBERT SCHINDLER, et al.,

Petitioners,

v.

MICHAEL SCHIAVO,

Respondent

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PETITION TO REMOVE GUARDIAN

AND TO APPOINT SUCCESSOR GUARDIAN

Petitioners, Robert Schindler, Mary Schindler, Robert Schindler, Jr. and Suzanne Schindler Carr, by and through undersigned counsel, pursuant to Fla. Prob. R. 5.660, hereby petition this Court for its Order removing Michael Schiavo ("Schiavo") as Guardian of Theresa Marie Schiavo ("Terri" or "the ward") and appointing one of the ward’s siblings, Robert Schindler, Jr. or Suzanne Schindler Carr, as successor guardian. Any one of the statutory reasons set forth below is sufficient to require removal of this guardian pursuant to § 744.474, Fla. Stat. In support, Petitioners say:

Failure to Discharge His Duties - § 744.474 (2), Fla. Stat.



TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guardian; guardianship; hearing; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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I don't know why nobody's posted this as its own thread; it certainly seems worthy. The hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, but the web site doesn't say the time. Key observation: at the time of the last guardianship hearing, Michael and Jodi had not moved in with each other. Lewd and lacivious behavior, including cohabitation, is explicitly forbidden by guardians per Florida statute (cited in the petition above), and I don't think anyone can reasonably deny that Michael and Jodi have been cohabiting for some time and such cohabitation has been of a sexual nature (evidenced by Michael's children).

[PS--I hope this posts right; the preview window shows it being too wide, but it's funny that way sometimes.

1 posted on 11/04/2003 9:30:54 PM PST by supercat
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To: supercat
" Where there's life, there's hope."
      -Terri Schiavo (angrily SUPPORTING the comatose being kept ALIVE)
2 posted on 11/04/2003 9:46:42 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: supercat
Thanks for putting this one up. I'll be checking in tomorrow periodically for updates, so when those of you who are closer to the scene get the opportunity, please post what you know. I'm sure there will be many who will be interested in how this pans out. FWIW, I'll be praying and fasting tomorrow if anyone would care to join me.
3 posted on 11/04/2003 9:58:36 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: supercat
This is a top-of-the-line petition. Yet, why I am I pessimistic that the FL court will not even bother to read it?

FL COURTS ARE CORRUPT!
People should start bumper stickers saying such. We should undermine this judiciary at all costs.
4 posted on 11/04/2003 10:05:31 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Yet, why I am I pessimistic that the FL court will not even bother to read it?

Under Florida statutes, guardians are forbidden from doing certain things which would not otherwise be legal, including lewd and lacivious cohabitation (except between married people). Unless Michael and Felos can convince a court that Michael's children were not produced by lewd and lacivious means, it would seem difficult for a court to deny the petition. Of course, I wouldn't be too surprised if a judge ruled that reproductive sex was not lewd and lacivious--such a finding would go along with all the other findings of fact in this case.

5 posted on 11/04/2003 10:11:06 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
I'll join you.
6 posted on 11/04/2003 10:16:45 PM PST by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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Hand Delivery to GEORGE FELOS, this 15th day of November, 2002

So this ISN'T a petition for tomorrow? This is the one from LAST YEAR that Greer ignored? What has changed since then that gives us hope Greer will change heart tomorrow?

7 posted on 11/04/2003 10:23:49 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
Amazing. The "Greer-is-not-blind" howler trolls really ought to explain this one to us.
8 posted on 11/04/2003 10:26:25 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: Judith Anne
Thanks. The more the merrier!
9 posted on 11/04/2003 10:31:05 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: FL_engineer
LOTS more people watching?? (Not that I have much optimism, either.....)
10 posted on 11/04/2003 10:31:23 PM PST by Politicalmom
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Maybe it was filed last year and Greer has been rubber-stamping motions to continue by Felos? Could it be that this is the first hearing of the Nov 2002 petition?
11 posted on 11/04/2003 10:33:11 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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I certainly hope they remove him as guardian and that they do not appoint one of his cronies as guardian. Let's hope and pray that guardianship goes to the Schindlers.
12 posted on 11/04/2003 10:35:34 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) ( Deuteronomy 32:37 -- And he shall say, Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted,)
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To: Judith Anne
Greetings JA! Long time no see... Welcome to the 'Terri threads'

If you'd like a quick summary of issues, I might recommend reviewing post #6 here, as well #8, #17, #25, #26, #50, and most responses throughout.

-FLE

13 posted on 11/04/2003 10:51:47 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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26. After receipt of the award, Schiavo’s conduct includes every attempt to facilitate the death of Terri before the money ran out.8/

Bottom line.

14 posted on 11/04/2003 10:52:49 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: FL_engineer
I thought this document referred to the HINO and his attorney's appearance on Larry King Live. How could this be dated Nov 2002? I'm confused.
15 posted on 11/04/2003 10:55:20 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: FL_engineer
Was this document rejected in 2002? Is something really happening tomorrow, Wed., 11/5?
16 posted on 11/04/2003 10:56:30 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: supercat
Oh, I remember now, Greer scheduled Terri's DEATH for October 15th, (+roughly 10 days),
and he scheduled her GUARDIANSHIP HEARING for 20 days AFTER that!!!

Greer is human garbage hiding behind a black robe.
Only his heart is blacker.

17 posted on 11/04/2003 11:08:35 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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I will bet you any amount you care to name that the "lewd and lascivious behavior" clause was intended to protect a minor ward living in the same household with the guardian. It's hard to see how such a provision would apply in a case like this.
18 posted on 11/04/2003 11:12:55 PM PST by Brandon
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I will bet you any amount you care to name that the "lewd and lascivious behavior" clause was intended to protect a minor ward living in the same household with the guardian. It's hard to see how such a provision would apply in a case like this.

Well, I don't think the legislators would have expected anyone to be living with a mistress while retaining guardianship of his wife. But I see no reason why the statute should not be applicable here.

19 posted on 11/04/2003 11:18:36 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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And I don't see why it should apply. There's been no suggestion that Schiavo has been sleeping around or leading a scandalous life. He has formed a long-term committed relationship with one woman, who he intends to marry. I understand that some people have a problem with him doing this while his wife is still technically alive, but I don't think you can view this as adultery in the usual sense of the word. More importantly, there is no chance whatsoever that his behavior, no matter how outrageous, will corrupt the morals of his ward, which is almost certainly why that clause was included in the statute in the first place.
20 posted on 11/05/2003 12:50:02 AM PST by Brandon
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