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Porn Yesterday: Recall and 'Mixed Opinions' for French Vogue's Latest
Yahoo! News - FWD ^ | 10.31.03 | Karl Treacy

Posted on 11/03/2003 8:21:36 PM PST by mhking

The November issue of French Vogue arrived late on newsstands in Paris Thursday, having supposed to have been there since Monday. But subscribers received their copies in the mail on time -- with a little something extra.

As it regularly does, French Vogue publisher Condé Nast collaborated with a major advertiser to sponsor a beauty supplement; this time, the honor fell to French beauty giant L'Oreal, which splashed out on 52 pages, including covers.

Aside from the multiplicity of L'Oreals ads -- featuring Claudia Schiffer, Laetitia Casta and Natalie Imbruglia (news), among others -- the supplement's pages came illustrated with images by 70s-era photographer David Hamilton of naked Lolitas, most of whom seem incredibly new to the whole puberty thing.

According to sources, L'Oreal bosses saw the final supplement only after the issue had been printed and delivered. Reportedly, Condé Nast France president Didier Suberbielle was summoned to L'Oreal headquarters in Paris late last week, where the feedback on the issue was far from enthusiastic, with L'Oreal chiefs demanding all copies of the supplement recalled and destroyed, with the cost burden shouldered by the publisher.

L'Oreal's international PR director, Jean-Dominique Tortil, denied this, saying, "Oh no! We were just sending the supplement to subscribers only. It was a test to see if maybe it would be successful to do it [sponsor a supplement] again next year." He said the company would be looking at producing a larger supplement next year, "maybe in April or May."

Suberbielle did not respond to FWD's attempts to contact him to discuss the matter at his rue du Faubourg St-Honore office and Carine Roitfeld, editor-in-chief of French Vogue, is currently out of the country.

Following a round of phone calls to press kiosks in the French capital, FWD has learned that the original copies of the magazine were all delivered in advance before being suddenly recalled at the weekend and returned a number of days later, rebagged sans the offending supplement. The only supplement contained in the plastic cover now is a 16-page Nike advertorial shot and written by the Vogue team, though on some newsstands, even that is missing.

On the matter of the supplement being pulled from newsstands, Tortil wagered, "Oh! Maybe there had been a slight misunderstanding by Condé Nast. It was only supposed to be for subscribers. As far as I know it was definitely a test issue." He stressed, more than once, "We have the best relationship with Condé Nast."

So L'Oreal had no problem with the imagery, some of which shows nude girls who cannot possibly be over 13 years of age? "Well, of course there were mixed opinions; some thought it was OK, some didn't. We'll know more after the survey."

The survey?

According to the spokesman L'Oreal will be conducting a survey, most likely by phone, of French Vogue subscribers to see what they thought of the supplement in order to assess the viability of launching a bigger issue next time.

Although the subject of the next sponsored supplement is not known, by Tortil's admission, it will probably feature "more mainstream" photography and models. For the moment, however, those lucky enough to get their hands on a copy of this one are in possession of an unexpected collectors item.

Curiously, despite the fact that the November issue is reportedly his first since being named as new creative director, Fabien Baron's name is conspicuously absent from the main magazine's masthead. Baron, who was seen at Roitfeld's side on the front row of many a show during Paris Fashion Week earlier this month, replaced consultant team M/M.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: condenast; culturewar; france; french; itsjustsex; permissivesociety; sex; sexualizingchildren; vogue

1 posted on 11/03/2003 8:21:37 PM PST by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

2 posted on 11/03/2003 8:21:57 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
But subscribers received their copies in the mail on time -- with a little something extra.

A plain brown wrapper?

Or an arrest warrant for a charge of possession of child pornography?

3 posted on 11/03/2003 8:24:39 PM PST by thoughtomator ("A republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: mhking
So L'Oreal had no problem with the imagery, some of which shows nude girls who cannot possibly be over 13 years of age? "Well, of course there were mixed opinions; some thought it was OK, some didn't. We'll know more after the survey."

Kiddie porn is OK in France??...for subscribers

but we're already boycotting France..

4 posted on 11/03/2003 8:39:22 PM PST by GeronL (Visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: mhking
David Hamilton's photography of nude and near nude pubescent girls is on sale at Barnes & Noble... there was a big stink about it a couple of years ago.
5 posted on 11/03/2003 9:55:47 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker
Wasn't that over another pedo, with Hamilton getting secondary fire?

Jock Sturges, or something like that?
6 posted on 11/03/2003 10:05:03 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: mhking
Every year the label for Chateau Mouton Rothschild Bordeaux wine has an art work created for it. I'm not certain of the year but I think it's the 1993 vintage label that has a drawing of a young nude girl on it. At the time I visited the winery I was told that the label is banned in the US as child porn.
7 posted on 11/03/2003 10:23:19 PM PST by xp38
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To: TheAngryClam
If I remember correctly, both Sturges and Hamilton were involved.

Check here

Yup! I was right.

8 posted on 11/03/2003 10:30:36 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: TheAngryClam
David Hamilton is also still for sale on Amazon.com

David Hamilton at Amazon.com

9 posted on 11/03/2003 10:32:53 PM PST by Swordmaker
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To: GeronL
>>>>>Kiddie porn is OK in France??...for subscribers<<<

Mauice Chevalier crooned "Thanks heaven forr little girrlz ..."

But it was dans un film Americain, n'cest pas?

10 posted on 11/04/2003 7:14:56 AM PST by DTA
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To: mhking
The elephant in the room that no one will acknowledge--the fascination and allure that children and the child-like hold for men.

Recently saw "Quiet American"--which pairs the sixtyish Michael Caine with an Asian girl who, if she isn't in her teens, sure looks it--

Yuck. Could scarcely concentrate on the story. Why is this kind of pairing so acceptable for most people? and so alluring to the male?

11 posted on 11/04/2003 7:19:22 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
"Why is this kind of pairing so acceptable for most people? and so alluring to the male?"

Due to the tactile, sensory, and olfactory purity of a lady unspoiled by others before him. It's nature. It's also difficult to 'splain in language suitable for this forum. But one might allegory that it's the same reason some people only buy NEW cars.

Michael

12 posted on 11/04/2003 7:31:00 AM PST by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: Wright is right!
re: a lady )))

Your choice of words shows you can't face the elephant, either. Lady implies maturity. I'm talking jailbait.

13 posted on 11/04/2003 9:18:53 AM PST by Mamzelle
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