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ZOTTT! Healthcare realities today...

Posted on 10/15/2003 7:50:45 PM PDT by fireaiys

Edited on 10/15/2003 8:16:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 10/15/2003 7:50:46 PM PDT by fireaiys
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To: fireaiys
>>Sadly proper health care is not prevailant in the US<<

What planet are you from?? People come here for healthcare. Even our poorest get healthcare.

Troll.
2 posted on 10/15/2003 7:58:35 PM PDT by netmilsmom ( We are SITCOMs-single income, two kids, oppressive mortgage.)
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To: fireaiys
Being in the health care industry, I can tell you that family with limited financial (and insurance) resources are pressured into "code 1 status-do not resuscitate" status. The doctors almost focus exclusively on it.

However, if the patient has multiple insurance policies, or are family members of doctors, or prominent persons of the community and family member, they will pull out go the extra, extra, 100th mile to prolong, and possible save their lives.

This has disgusted me, and figured in my decision not to continue to work for this particular hospital, and I've told my family members to NEVER let Doctor so and so touch me with a ten foot pole. (the pull the plug happy, I used to call them)


3 posted on 10/15/2003 7:59:12 PM PDT by mimimo
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Hello GOD. I never thought I'd meet you in this life. Hey, maybe we can modify your natural selection theory a smidegon.
When I get sick, Bill Clinton's third cousin twice removed, gets to give me a thumbs up or thumbs down. No Thanks.
4 posted on 10/15/2003 8:37:30 PM PDT by kylaka
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Don't care if you believe it or not.

I worked at this hospital for 13 years, and I can tell you it happens.
5 posted on 10/16/2003 7:15:26 AM PDT by mimimo
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To: fireaiys
WE are the Cabal of One(tm).
Resistance is futile.
We really ARE out to get JUST YOU.
Your shower head is an inverted phased wave transducer so that we can check up on your shortcomings.
Your wife is a plant by us to spy on you.
Your pet is in league with us.
You are OWNEDZORZ!

...
Oh, you've already been banned.
Sorry, I guess I'll have to catch you on the rebound when you are reconstituted next week for the ritualistic zotting.

Cabal(tm) members, Cabal(tm) meeting next Tuesday.
Subject, the song "Baby's Got Back" in latin.
6 posted on 10/16/2003 6:02:20 PM PDT by Darksheare (Resistance is futile, but we may be placated with chocolates and shiny trinkets to add to our hord.)
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To: mimimo
Being a member of the night cleaning crew does not count newbie.
7 posted on 10/16/2003 6:05:47 PM PDT by PA Engineer
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To: PA Engineer
I'm a former nurse, turned medical records coder, smart***
8 posted on 10/16/2003 6:39:52 PM PDT by mimimo
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Another troll flung. Sorry!!!
9 posted on 10/16/2003 6:40:44 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (On October 11, 2003 I asked Laura Earl to be my wife. "Well sure, I mean, I guess", was her answer.)
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To: mimimo
re: Being in the health care industry, I can tell you that family with limited financial (and insurance) resources are pressured into "code 1 status-do not resuscitate" status. The doctors almost focus exclusively on it. )))

Or, you could be full of BS. Go ahead, get specific. You being in the healthcare industry, and all...

10 posted on 10/16/2003 6:44:18 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: mimimo
"Being in the health care industry, I can tell you that family with limited financial (and insurance) resources are pressured into "code 1 status-do not resuscitate" status. The doctors almost focus exclusively on it. "

You are nuts.

11 posted on 10/16/2003 6:53:57 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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from the zotted post:
..."There are others here in the US that are denied care because of their inability to afford medical care and/or medical insurance. ..."
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Or, as in the case of my daughter, they may simply be unable to find any insurance company that will insure them. In our case, it is not a matter of not being able to afford it, it is a case of the insurance companies flat-out refusing coverage. Whenever she applies, she always receives a nice polite letter explaining that she is being "denied coverage" because of her pre-existing condition. She has to take expensive medicine and see expensive specialists, but she is classified as "uninsurable" so it is all out-of-pocket.
The day is coming when she will have to go on dialysis or seek a transplant, we will not be able to afford it and we don't know what we will do when that time comes.
Even that, as close to home as it hits, does not make me want to have a universal government run healthcare system.
13 posted on 10/16/2003 6:56:21 PM PDT by DefCon
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To: mimimo
DNR's are pushed on everyone! Makes me crazy.
14 posted on 10/16/2003 6:58:00 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: fireaiys
Dollars to doughnuts the people who can't afford monthly health care premiums have the triple HBO satellite/cable channels and a damn boatload of credit card debt from going out to eat dinner 5 nights a week as well as surround sound home theatre, dvd's cd's, vacations etc.
15 posted on 10/16/2003 7:00:50 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Mamzelle
How do you wish me to get specific?

This is an observation I have made through years of analyzing patients' records. I now code for a company where I code a variety of hospital records--and I do admit I don't see it like I did when I worked at previous employer.

You can take my opinion or leave it. Nobody is denied care, that is true. But I have seen very ill pts' families with insufficient insurance or no insurance at all practically arm twisted to accept the "code 1" status.

Insult me all you want. I'm just as conservative as anyone here. But it's the truth, and G-d knows it is. My religion comes before my politics anyway. I'm not going to be a Kool-aid drinker and pretend something that isn't. Some of you probably have no idea what my job is about. I'm not for government subsidized socialized medicine (Medicare and Medicaid are a nightmare, trust me), but there is A DIFFERENCE at this particular hospital in how you're treated depending on your insurance status.

I've seen this happen over and over again. It wouldn't surprise me if it happened at more hospitals than the one I used to work for.
16 posted on 10/16/2003 7:00:59 PM PDT by mimimo
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You are being very rude, and as I've said - take it or leave it.

Being the husband of a physician,your and her reaction doesn't surprise me. I am not attacking MOST MDs in any way. Shouldn't get so defensive.

Ask your wife what these codes are: 403.91, 574.10, 305.1.
Prove to ME she is a physician, Pennsylvania engineer.
17 posted on 10/16/2003 7:13:13 PM PDT by mimimo
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To: DefCon
My husband found out he was "uninsurable" because he snores. (no joke, that's what Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida said)

Can you find out if she can qualify for charity care? (we have a "we care" program here where I live--really helps) If she needs dialysis, she may qualify for Medicare. I know end stage renal disease patients qualify for this. May want to check it out.
18 posted on 10/16/2003 7:17:33 PM PDT by mimimo
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To: DefCon
I beleive being a dialysis patient will enable her to be Medicare eligible.
19 posted on 10/16/2003 7:19:34 PM PDT by Trust but Verify (Will work for W)
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To: fireaiys
Dang it! I'm always too late to the ZOT!
20 posted on 10/16/2003 7:20:50 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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