Posted on 03/27/2020 1:41:16 PM PDT by Zenyatta
President Donald Trump is demanding General Motors start manufacturing desperately needed ventilators 'NOW' – after a stunning report his administration stalled a potential deal over the cost.
After sustaining weeks of questions and criticisms about why his administration hadn't demanded rush orders for medical equipment weeks ago, Trump took to Twitter to demand GM get on the task 'FAST.' He even demanded they reopen a shuttered Ohio plant – even though the company has already put forward a proposal to start assembly at a plant in Indiana.
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BREAKING: President Trump invokes Defense Production Act requiring General Motors to "accept, perform, and prioritize federal contracts for ventilators."
POTUS says #COVID19 is too urgent to "allow the give and take of the contracting process to continue to run its normal course" pic.twitter.com/MZnIt6Lb3r— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) March 27, 2020
The Daily Mail has managed to both out-left the Guardian and out lie virtually every other news source in the multiverse.
Congratulations, dorks.
But it’s the newspaper of record for a lot of freepers. To paraphrase Rupert Ritzik when opining on comic books: “The Daily Mail doesn’t lie.”
You might be able to make a thousand new ventilators in a month. Or ten thousand.
The respiratory therapists required to run them need 2-3 years of training. Each.
Less time, maybe, in an emergency, but still much longer that it takes to mass-produce machines.
Why is everybody talking about machines, and not the trained humans who run them while they are keeping other humans alive?
It’s not The Matrix: patients not yet just pod people all hooked to machines and overseen by computers.
It’s trained, caring humans keeping the suffocating CV patients alive. Ventilators are just the tool that the trained humans need to do their job.
I wish this was emphasized on every TV broadcast about #s of ventilators.
You can’t mass produce respiratory therapists, nurses and doctors. Emergency or no emergency. There is always the human element.
It shouldn’t take more than a day to learn how to run a ventilator. There are far more sophisticated medical devices out there that I’ve seen people learn how to operate in just a few hours.
You set it to on adjust the per second the doctor ordered and go.
ok. you be the first to be attended to on a vent by someone with one days training. no i’m not a respiratory therapist. i’m an RN. there’s a lot more to it than just “turning it on.”
You think a suffocating pneumonic CV infected human with myriad comorbid conditions is like a nail to be hammered by an apprentice carpenter?
God help us.
Amen.
How many yrs does it take to train Army, USMC, USAF, USN specialist to safely move, load, and prep advanced munitions and possibly nukes. Especially in a time of war or threatened conflict. Get some of those trainers on it.
They’ll be able to pin a shortage of machines on Trump. Not so, the inability to train.
And it will be brought up when he is re-elected. So, the ventilators to be made available.
Are you trying to say that they can’t make a simple ventilator anyone can operate with minimal training? How many years did they have to train the Italians who are using ventilators fashioned from diving masks?
It shouldn’t take more than a day to learn how to run a ventilator.
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I guess all those respiratory therapists wasted years of their life in school, when they could have just been taught in a day.
Daily Mail -read no further if you want to know about this look elsewhere.
GM just appointed a Chinese national as their CIO.
Yes, of course, I agree 100%. I’m just a bit tired of ventilators being discusses as if they were aspirins, make X, save Y.
There is a trained human in that ventilator process that takes longer to “build” than a machine.
Not surprised..big % of their biz is in China now.
Why don’t you tell me?
A pneumonic patient is not a Matrix pod person, that’s Hollywood.
So Italians made SCUBA ventilators, great! It’s a great story!
I hope that Ford and GM make thousands of ventilators too.
Numbers of machines doesn’t solve the human element.
In Italy, they went from one respiratory therapist per ventilator up to 4 per ventilator, as staff got infected and sick and lost to the fight.
And subsequently, the number of dead Italians increased.
So yes, maybe we can train “mechanics” in one day to run brand new mass-produced Ford/GM/Tesla ventilators.
At what loss in quality/death rate?
My only point is that brand new ventilators DO NOT run themselves.
Respiratory therapists are not minted overnight.
And if you put “one week wonders” in charge of brand new mass-produced ventilators, don’t expect optimal results.
It’s easier and faster to make a machine than a trained respiratory therapist.
That’s all I’m trying to say.
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