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Trump ORDERS GM to open their shuttered Ohio plant and 'start making ventilators NOW' as he threatens to invoke special defense powers claiming company tried to price gouge
Daily Mail ^ | 3/27/2020 | Geoff Earle

Posted on 03/27/2020 1:41:16 PM PDT by Zenyatta

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To: kara37

2 yr Associate Degree program at a trade school


21 posted on 03/27/2020 2:49:17 PM PDT by cork (gun control, proper grip, stance and target picture)
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To: Travis McGee

2-3 years of training?? Ridiculous. We’re not talking about a rocket ship.


22 posted on 03/27/2020 2:55:33 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Zenyatta

If I come out of the hospital after being on a GM ventilator and sound like this I’d be happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_FSicQWimU


23 posted on 03/27/2020 2:56:37 PM PDT by freefdny
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To: Travis McGee; All

COVID-19 will be over before GM is up to speed building these things.


24 posted on 03/27/2020 2:57:20 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: freefdny

Would rather have a Mopar respirator. Never was much of a bow tie guy.


25 posted on 03/27/2020 3:04:46 PM PDT by cork (gun control, proper grip, stance and target picture)
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To: Travis McGee

So let’s get this straight. A trained operator tells me to push button A and check on the patient every 15 minutes, gives me responsibility for 5 patients then they go out to train someone else. You think that the patient would be better off with no ventilator at all?


26 posted on 03/27/2020 3:06:11 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Travis McGee

The lack of trained respiratory therapists should be solved by the use of robots. They would not get sick from exposure to disease, would not need sleep, can be set with the required parameters and can perform tasks perfectly thousands of times. We should be using the millions of dollars wasted by the CDC on kooky studies (What makes gays gain weight) to develop medical robots that can perform in hospital settings.


27 posted on 03/27/2020 3:07:25 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Zenyatta

GM sold the plant, the new owners plan to make electric trucks.


28 posted on 03/27/2020 3:07:41 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Travis McGee
You can’t mass produce respiratory therapists, nurses and doctors. Emergency or no emergency. There is always the human element.

Andrew Cuomo will just order the training programs to double their graduates. And then double the number again. And then do it a month. Easy. Just give the order, and shoot a few wreckers to motivate the rest.

29 posted on 03/27/2020 3:11:51 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Kirkwood
It shouldn’t take more than a day to learn how to run a ventilator.

But it does.

Patients are sedated and must be monitored at frequent intervals 7x24 or they die. Learning what to watch for and what to adjust takes a long time. And it is a 3-shift operation.

30 posted on 03/27/2020 3:13:53 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

United States and Canada
In the United States and Canada, Respiratory Therapists are healthcare practitioners who, after receiving at least an Associate of Science in Respiratory Care, complete a credentialing process.
After satisfactorily completing the required examinations and being added to a registry, the practitioner is then eligible to apply for a license to practice in the region governed by their respective licensing body.
In the United States, specialist Respiratory Therapists are clinicians who hold National Board for Respiratory Care specialty credentials, which may include neonatal/pediatric specialist (CRT-NPS or RRT-NPS), adult critical care specialist (RRT-ACCS), sleep disorder specialist (CRT-SDS or RRT-SDS), and pulmonary function technologist (CPFT or RPFT). The NBRC’s RRT-ACCS examination is the newest NBRC examination: it was introduced in 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respiratory_therapist#United_States_and_Canada


31 posted on 03/27/2020 3:16:08 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Zenyatta

I would find it difficult to trust a Chevy ventilator. ;)


32 posted on 03/27/2020 3:21:13 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Zenyatta

Will medical workers have to slam the doors on those General Motors ventilators to get them closed?


33 posted on 03/27/2020 3:23:28 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Nero Germanicus

Same question to you then. A hospital is in a state of emergency. Staff is overwhelmed and many are getting sick themselves. Are the sick patients better off with hastily trained volunteers or no ventilators at all?


34 posted on 03/27/2020 3:28:29 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

That would depend on how rich the hospital is or how good their liability insurance is for when they get sued if someone dies under the care of an untrained or poorly trained technician.


35 posted on 03/27/2020 3:36:59 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Experienced and aggressive attorneys are waiting to take your call. 1-888-BADVENT


36 posted on 03/27/2020 3:38:35 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Nero Germanicus

When I was in the Navy they lined us up and gave us a Swine flu vaccine that had been put together in haste. The companies that developed it did so with the understanding they couldn’t be held liable if anything went wrong. So to me it sounds like if they wanted to they could release hospitals from liability if they wanted to.


37 posted on 03/27/2020 3:52:59 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

When I was in the Navy they lined us up and gave us a Swine flu vaccine that had been put together in haste.
= = = = = = = =
Well, guess ‘we’ were just ‘guinea pigs’....(REMEMBER the pics from post WWII atomic tests and the sailors on the decks of ships were instructed to roll down their cuffs and button shirts at the neck and TURN AWAY from the blast??
As bad as being told to hide under your flimsy school desk in case of nuclear attack.

In 1956 I had a hernia operation at USNH Yokosuka and I was given a ‘spinal’.....My mother and family (MOST RN’s) were ‘upset’ that was the method.


38 posted on 03/27/2020 4:02:55 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The military and the private sector operate under different rules. Perhaps public hospitals could wave liability but I doubt it.


39 posted on 03/27/2020 4:09:51 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Travis McGee
You might be able to make a thousand new ventilators in a month. Or ten thousand.

The respiratory therapists required to run them need 2-3 years of training. Each.

Then, don't make them.

Feel better?

40 posted on 03/27/2020 4:14:52 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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