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Why Ted Cruz (Not Marco Rubio) Dominated the Third Republican Debate
The New York Observer ^ | November 2, 2015 | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 11/02/2015 2:20:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Wednesday night, Texas Senator Ted Cruz opened the doors for the Republican party to walk through to a new beginning; to something ahead that cannot yet be seen — an observation first made the afternoon before, by Edward Luce of the Financial Times who declared the “End of Days” for the Republican Establishment. The Establishment standard Jeb Bush, former governor of Florida, who carried the weight and burden of three generations on his shoulders, would take the final hit for the night.

Throughout long speculation, there were two together, Mr. Bush and former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who were believed to be able to manage the Establishment’s transition to a new generation. It would be Mr. Bush, maybe with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie as sidekick — as it was envisioned four years ago. Mr. Romney would be close at hand in a life raft, lest it all went south. Which it did.

The Establishment is going to need a bigger boat. And now it is too late for Mr. Romney as well...

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.com ...


TOPICS: Texas; Campaign News; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bush; christie; cnbcgopdebate; cruz; debates; election2016; elections; romney; rubio; tedcruz; texas; trump
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1 posted on 11/02/2015 2:20:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a great article, except for the line:

“The Republican party will no longer be the party of Coolidge, lost in the cobwebs of history...”

Actually, being the party of Coolidge sounds just fine to me, and I bet old Cal would be mighty pleased with Ted Cruz right about now.

Timeless truths are timeless.


2 posted on 11/02/2015 2:27:59 PM PST by PlateOfShrimp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trump dominated the Drudge, Times, and CNBC polls on who won the debate, which were closely reflected in a scientific poll that came out right afterwards. In each, Trump dominated by an extreme amount.

Rubio only "won" in the minds of the establishment pundits. Cruz only fared somewhat better.

3 posted on 11/02/2015 2:29:07 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

4 posted on 11/02/2015 2:30:55 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump won the last 3 debates.


5 posted on 11/02/2015 2:31:36 PM PST by conservative98
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time for Cruz to take the mantle. The only truly electable candidate the Conservatives have and who can actually beat Hillary. The Trumpoonery-Buffoonery needs to end and the others as well need to leave the stage.


6 posted on 11/02/2015 2:31:37 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anti-Establishmentarianism is best delivered by Cruz.


7 posted on 11/02/2015 2:32:45 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I came here to kick a** and chew bubblebgum..."


8 posted on 11/02/2015 2:35:05 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Uncle Miltie

Cruz is a once-in-a-generation candidate. Reagan was the last.


9 posted on 11/02/2015 2:35:20 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Trump could have pulled his pants down and mooned the moderators and those same people would claim he won the debate. Most of those people aren’t voting on the basis of things actually said.


10 posted on 11/02/2015 2:35:37 PM PST by American Faith Today
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

An online web site vote is not a “poll.” They’re meaningless. Quoting them is a comical effort.

Cruz won the only scientific poll of the debate that I saw, the NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll. Trump cane in 3rd:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/287955649/Go-p-Race-Survey-Monkey-Top-Lines


11 posted on 11/02/2015 2:35:41 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: PlateOfShrimp
This is a great article, except for the line:

"The Republican party will no longer be the party of Coolidge, lost in the cobwebs of history..."

Actually, being the party of Coolidge sounds just fine to me, and I bet old Cal would be mighty pleased with Ted Cruz right about now.

Timeless truths are timeless.

Thanks. You saved me a lot of typing.

12 posted on 11/02/2015 2:35:56 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marco Rubio is now(buh bye Yeb) the defacto candidate of the Vichy Republicans and MSM so if he can fog up a mirror he will be proclaimed to be “ a fast rising candidate”


13 posted on 11/02/2015 2:36:02 PM PST by Cyman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Too bad both Cruz and Rubio are running. They are splitting the same vote. If one were to drop out early enough, the other would break out of the pack. Either one would give the country a real choice against Hillary or whatever socialist the Democrats nominate.


14 posted on 11/02/2015 2:40:11 PM PST by allendale
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To: JediJones
An online web site vote is not a “poll.” They’re meaningless. Quoting them is a comical effort.

The Survey Monkey is, in fact, an online poll, just FYI. But as for other polls, this one from OAN which matches the results on Drudge., et al:

http://www.oann.com/post-debate-poll-shows-trump-rubio-and-cruz-are-the-top-three-debate-winners/

15 posted on 11/02/2015 2:41:08 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: conservative98
Trump won the last 3 debates.

What flavor was the kool-aid?

16 posted on 11/02/2015 2:41:41 PM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: SparkyBass

This movie was, coincidentally, on one of the cable stations last night.
One of my favorites.
“They Live”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso


17 posted on 11/02/2015 2:47:38 PM PST by Signalman
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To: SparkyBass

18 posted on 11/02/2015 2:50:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie ("The bipartisan project is to destroy conservatism" .. "Cruz is a thoroughbred conservative." - Rush)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I think this reflects their status in the polls more than who actually won a debate. Winning a debate is really the delta between your pre-debate poll and post debate poll.

I’m not trashing Trump with this comment but using it as an example as the numbers are completely made up.

If Trump is polling at 30% pre-debate(and leading all GOP), Carson is polling 22% pre-debate (in 2nd place) and Cruz is polling 10% pre-debate(and in 3rd place).

After the debate Trump is still #1 in the polls but at 25%, Carson #2 at 19%, and Cruz #3 at 18%...then Cruz won the debate. But if you poll who won the debate Trump would still win because his supporters would still choose him since he didn’t do poorly and held his own.


19 posted on 11/02/2015 2:50:32 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Who does the OAN poll? I am loathe to give too much credence to a poll from a “network” that has only been in business for a couple of years, and has no track record on the accuracy of their poll results yet. That is not to say they are wrong, just to say that there is nothing to support the idea that they are right...


20 posted on 11/02/2015 2:52:24 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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