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KRAUTHAMMER: Place your bets: Favorites, dark horses are set
The Everett Herald ^ | August 14, 2015 | Dr. Charles Krauthammer, The Washington Post & Fox News

Posted on 08/14/2015 12:57:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Both presidential nomination contests having been scrambled by recent events — the FBI taking control of Hillary Clinton's private email server and a raucous, roiling GOP debate — the third edition of the Racing Form is herewith rushed into print. Legal disclaimer: This column is for betting purposes only. What follows is analysis — scrubbed, as thoroughly as a Clinton server, of advocacy. (Unless I simply can't resist.)

Hillary Clinton: Ever since her disastrous book-launch performance, I've thought her both (1) a weak candidate and (2) the inevitable Democratic nominee. No longer. She has fallen from her 95-percent barring-an-act-of-God perch. The email imbroglio has already badly damaged her credibility. But now that she's lost control of the server, there is potential for further, conceivably fatal, damage. It hinges largely on how successful she was in erasing the 32,000 emails she unilaterally deemed private.

Whatever happens, she will stay in the race. Clintons never quit. But if more top-secret information is found, if she did destroy work-related emails and if her numbers continue their steady decline, the party might decide it simply can't afford to continue carrying her baggage. Odds: 1-3.

Bernie Sanders: A less flighty, more serious Gene McCarthy. Fiery and genial, Sanders is the perfect protest candidate. But can a 73-year-old dairy-state Brooklynite socialist win? Of course not. If Hillary falls, Joe Biden fills the vacuum. Possibly even John Kerry. (Note to Dems: The beatified Jon Stewart is currently unemployed and at large.) Meanwhile, over at the GOP ...

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Anybody here know someone that'll crawl over broken glass to vote for Bush, Rubio or Kasich?
1 posted on 08/14/2015 12:57:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It will be Bernie vs. Biden.

Hillary is toast.

And no way will I vote for any of those three in your list.

I’ve done GOPe the last two national elections. Done with GOPe.


2 posted on 08/14/2015 1:04:28 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No. Charles obviously doesn’t know any pitch-fork carrying peasants.


3 posted on 08/14/2015 1:07:19 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: SaveFerris
Same with me.
Not voting for GOPe ever again.

That simply results in a Conservative base sitting home.
It then escorts the Liberal into the POTUS office.
4 posted on 08/14/2015 1:11:15 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Both parties limp into November 2016. Current odds?
GOP: 55 percent.



Charles has Beltway snob-itus, but he relishes being right.

Nonetheless, his reviews and odds of the Republican candidates is based on his very own "wishful" thinking.

6 posted on 08/14/2015 2:27:30 AM PDT by onyx (PLEASE Support FR - GO MONTHLY - Join CLUB 300 - God bless FR's Donors!)
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To: SatinDoll

Hes counted Trump out three times


7 posted on 08/14/2015 2:54:09 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Thoreau)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no repercussions for being wrong as a GOPe talking head inside the DC bubble. You just act abobe it all and move on to the next pontification. Nice gig if you can get it.


8 posted on 08/14/2015 3:04:40 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Since the debate, his numbers have plateaued, and in some places declined. In New Hampshire, for example, he's gone from the mid-20s to the high teens. And he had a rough debate, as reflected in the Suffolk University poll in Iowa taken right afterward, in which, by 55-23, respondents felt less comfortable with him as president. Nonetheless, his core support, somewhere around 20 percent (plus or minus a couple), remains as solid as that once commanded by Ron Paul and Ross Perot. Which means Trump will likely continue to lead until the field whittles down to a handful, at which point 20 percent is no longer a plurality.

Dr. Krauthammer's analysis and prediction mirror my own made before the debate. I think he's been reading my mail here.


9 posted on 08/14/2015 3:07:33 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Doc” was unable to recognize a psychopath,
and voted for that psychopath,
now morphs to a Undocumented democrat/Marxist
“noted gambler”.

ROTFLOL.


10 posted on 08/14/2015 4:02:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: nathanbedford

“And he had a rough debate, as reflected in the Suffolk University poll in Iowa taken right afterward, in which, by 55-23, respondents felt less comfortable with him as president.”

In other words, this one isolated poll in one state is extrapolated for all states for the duration of the campaign. The pundits say the polls don’t matter until it breaks the way they desire.

During the debate, each question for Trump was an attack on him personally. The people polled merely had picked up on the suggestions that the moderators put forth. They didn’t have time to see the trickery vetted. Note the words “taken right afterward”.

This proposed ceiling for Trump supporters is laughable. Why aren’t the other candidates with their low percentages assigned a ceiling? According the pundits, front runners are now dirt. Evidently, it would pay for the candidates try to defeat themselves for a period of time to prevent “peaking”.

I have been noticing that the network news cast almost invariably began their reporting on Trump with the words such as “controversial”, “firestorm”, etc. I expect at any time that they will say: “A firestorm of controversy erupts as Trump is seen boarding his plane to attend a campaign event!!!”


11 posted on 08/14/2015 4:26:18 AM PDT by odawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I still think that Elizabeth Warren is the democrat back up candidate. Running Uncle Joe Biden is just a sideshow. Late as possible Warren rides in (bareback like a true Indian) to save the party.


12 posted on 08/14/2015 4:35:34 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: shoff

Democrats may want to go for a 3rd Term for Obama after Hillary debacule—Sanders will be their guy and fail. Too many ugly things are coming out on Hillary—and there is more to come. It will be a brokered Convention. Anyone can be nominated at this point.


13 posted on 08/14/2015 5:28:23 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I think an open convention is the RATs only hope. They need a blank canvas, much as Obie was in 2008.


14 posted on 08/14/2015 5:36:36 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: nathanbedford
1. Why would Trump plateau at 20% while those polling behind him go higher as the field whittles down? I dont see Rand Paul or Huckabee supporters breaking for Krauthammer’s pets Jeb Bush or Pretty Boy Rubio for example.

2. Why is he taking the one poll where Trump's numbers are down slightly and running with it as his basis for his “Trump has plateaued” conclusion, and ignoring all the other post debate polls where Trump is actually up? A bit of intellectual dishonesty there eh Dr Krauthammer?

Dr Krauthammer is still in denial. But he is going to be dragged kicking and screaming to reality, sooner or later.

15 posted on 08/14/2015 5:40:14 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: sf4dubya

Is this scenario even possible - could Sanders be FORCED to run third party? If the Dems WANT Hillary or Biden, couldn’t they force him out because he isn’t a Democrat?


16 posted on 08/14/2015 5:43:30 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It amazes me how these “pundits” continue to support themselves with “commentary” that is nothing more then a summary about what we already know happened, and speculation about what we already figured out might happen.

I find more insightful and witty thoughts on FR. I can see why the establishment punditry would be very threatened by all the Internet content.

17 posted on 08/14/2015 5:43:59 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You reckon ole Kraut will have a case of the vapors if it comes down to Trump vs Bernie?


18 posted on 08/14/2015 5:46:52 AM PDT by biff
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To: nikos1121

That is the problem with RINOS - they cannot stand the ideas set out in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. Self-government is anathema to them.


20 posted on 08/14/2015 10:08:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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