Skip to comments.Assuming Corzine Has Handed Jersey To GOP,Only Leaves Ind,NC,Virginia,Ohio&Fla/Penn.&Obama Is Done!
Posted on 12/11/2011 5:46:39 PM PST by The_Obama_Gerbil
Let's just assume that thanks to Jon Corzine, Obama has lost Jersey,and add to that Indiana,Ohio,Virgina & North Carolina. All we need is Pennsylvania or Florida and Obama loses. Either that, or a combination of other swing states like Colorado,Nevada and Michigan. No matter how you do the math, Obama's chances of winning are as equal to M.C. Hammer making a Comeback!
Don’t assume that at all. NJ turns out liberals, scumbags and the dead during presidential elections. I’ve seen polls where Democrats look dead in the water for years now but they almost always pull it out.
NJ goes GOP only slightly more often than Massachussetts does. Any strategy that assumes we will win in New Jersey is utter foolishness.
That’s a very big assumption. But even without that I think the GOP will almost certainly take Indiana, North Carolina, and Virginia; they should take Florida; and they might take Ohio.
The only way NJ votes Republican for Pres is in a landslide win in which case their votes aren’t needed.
I agree with you. The unions in NJ will be out for blood in 2012. Chris Christie is a far bigger lightening rod than Walker in WI and we are all seeing the treatment Walker’s getting from the left.
i will agree that NJ isn’t a sure thing, now that would depend on voter fraud, sure if it is an honest election,Obama would lose. I dont trust the philly area though!
We should focus on Virginia(easy win for GOP), North Carolina(live here and it is going to be a photo finish), Florida(easy win for GOP), wisconsin(can flip to GOP—depends on recall of Scott), Michigan(can easily flip to GOP), Pennsylvania(very good chance after a long time), Ohio(photo finish-—healthcare mandate was won big), New Hamphsire(easy win for GOP), Iowa(win for GOP),New Mexico(Possible for GOP) & Indiana(easy win).
well,keep in mind, GOP needs to flip Ohio,Indiana,Virginia,NC,and either Fla or Penn, and Obama is done. and those are the easiest states for the GOP to win.
It’s going to be a ‘bottom up’ election. Won’t see much enthusiasm for the top of either ticket.
Enthusiasm for downstream candidates will drive the volunteers and donations and ultimately the vote.
North Carolina, especially, will depend on the quality of the House candidates.
Gov. Scott’s peril can drive up the anti-Obama vote in Wisc.
It is way, way, way too early to make that assumption. You are not alone in wishing that it would come to pass, but it’s still way too early.
Have you seen all the forged names on the petitions from 2008 when Obama got on the ballot in Indiana. Many people are stepping forward to verify that they did not sign for Obama! What makes anyone think it won’t happen again in 2012 to bring in the dead people to vote also.
Again, it might be the VP candidate which is going to make a huge difference. Last election, it was a tough hill to climb but this time, VP can make a difference.
I have a feeling that, VP might be Jindaal or Rubio. Any one of them will be great
I kind of doubt Rubio would accept 4 years out in the backwaters attending foreign heads of state funerals. He needs to build more of a record in the senate and be ready to make his move to run for POTUS when the time is right. Jindal - maybe.VP choice historically makes little difference to the outcome. Why do you feel it will be different this time?
neither jindal or rubio are natural born and we already have a commie usurper. Try Sarah Palin and you gots a winning ticket.
Jindal and Rubio are NOT natural born Citizens.
I would NOT vote for the republicans if either Jindal or Rubio are the VP nominee. That includes ANY republican down ticket.
I predict the fix is already in... as well, I live in NJ, and its scary how many mallet headed liberals still exist here
dont count on it
“VP might be Jindaal or Rubio”
Jindaal or Rubio would be fantastic, but assuming Newt is the nominee then he can’t pick Jindaal because that would mean two Catholics on the ticket and that may not work.
If the VP is Allan West then that would help with Florida.
Jindaal is the best, but Louisiana doesn’t add a lot to the numbers — and he is also Catholic.
Seems like Rubio would be ideal if he would accept.
Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, and Ohio should be a certainty. New Hampshire is all that is needed.
It’s not voter fraud, there are tons of inner cities, unions, demorats who work in new York, liberal Jews, the list is endless.
Dems were just reelected to conrol the legislature.
And I don’t think Corzine will do a damn thing, in New Jersey anyway.
Good don’t vote for them.
I will vote for Rubio for any office.
Well, I can imagine how badly McCain would have lost but for Palin... and Bush needed a Cheney.
But I don’t see the VP making as big a difference this time.
We’re gonna have more-or-less a RINO at the top.
The down-ballot races are gonna have to be where the passion is.
Of the states you listed, I think the safest bets right now are (in order) North Carolina, Indiana, and Virginia.
Obama took North Carolina by a third of a percent and Indiana by just a hair over 1% in a year when the GOP fielded the weakest nominee in a generation, in an environment that was the most politically toxic environment for Republicans since Watergate. And in the case of Indiana, he probably still only won the state because Lake County is, for all intents and purposes, part of the Chicago Metro Area. Both those states should go GOP this time. Virginia is (IMHO) very likely to go GOP, but you never know with the D.C. types living in NoVa. A decent GOP ticket should be able to carry it.
As for the rest, my SWAG’s (Scientific Wild Arse Guesses)
Florida: Right now, I’d bet 60/40 it goes GOP.
Ohio: Tossup. Could go either way, maybe slight GOP
favorite (Ohio FRiends feel free to correct/educate me here)
PA: 55/45 chance in favor of the Democrats. A tough fight for Republicans, but absolutely winnable.
NJ: Obama carries it by 7-9 points.
Why would you even assume that??.Christie is not all that popular in Jersey and the biggest shaker and mover politically in the state is the teacher’s union and they’ll be out in droves for DaBama.
How about Gov Susan Martinez of NM...a swing state, a female, and an Hispanic.
Which just goes to show you how far over the edge kooky birtherism has lead some people.
0bambi and Senior Advisers (those old balding white geezers)
Advisor: "Yes Mr President....the odds of your re-election are about the same as the coin landing on its edge."
NJ is way outside our reach. Actually, I’m a bit concerned about NV and CO. Even if we can win FL, OH, IA, VA, NC, and even NH, I think we will still lose without NV and CO. Assuming, of course, none of the ‘purple states’ like WI, MI, or PA goes Republican, which next year might be.
“Any strategy that assumes we will win in New Jersey is utter foolishness.”
I am afraid that is true. It would be great if the R’s took Jersey, but it’s nothing to count on.
You are either a coward or a traitor. Or both.
Yep. You aren’t nuts, just more patriotic and brave than the sane people. That’s it for sure.
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