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Assuming Corzine Has Handed Jersey To GOP,Only Leaves Ind,NC,Virginia,Ohio&Fla/Penn.&Obama Is Done!

Posted on 12/11/2011 5:46:39 PM PST by The_Obama_Gerbil

Let's just assume that thanks to Jon Corzine, Obama has lost Jersey,and add to that Indiana,Ohio,Virgina & North Carolina. All we need is Pennsylvania or Florida and Obama loses. Either that, or a combination of other swing states like Colorado,Nevada and Michigan. No matter how you do the math, Obama's chances of winning are as equal to M.C. Hammer making a Comeback!


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1 posted on 12/11/2011 5:46:45 PM PST by The_Obama_Gerbil
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

Don’t assume that at all. NJ turns out liberals, scumbags and the dead during presidential elections. I’ve seen polls where Democrats look dead in the water for years now but they almost always pull it out.

NJ goes GOP only slightly more often than Massachussetts does. Any strategy that assumes we will win in New Jersey is utter foolishness.


2 posted on 12/11/2011 5:50:43 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

That’s a very big assumption. But even without that I think the GOP will almost certainly take Indiana, North Carolina, and Virginia; they should take Florida; and they might take Ohio.


3 posted on 12/11/2011 5:54:18 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

The only way NJ votes Republican for Pres is in a landslide win in which case their votes aren’t needed.


4 posted on 12/11/2011 5:57:00 PM PST by Silver Sabre
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil
Barry can do a LOT of damage with the $1B Chicago-based AstroTurf Factory run by Davey and Bobby. Many “opinion polls” can be massaged, and many dead voters resurrected to make a mystical appearance at voting booths. It's the Chicago Way. Gird your loins.
5 posted on 12/11/2011 5:57:38 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: OrangeHoof

I agree with you. The unions in NJ will be out for blood in 2012. Chris Christie is a far bigger lightening rod than Walker in WI and we are all seeing the treatment Walker’s getting from the left.


6 posted on 12/11/2011 6:00:33 PM PST by Scanian
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To: OrangeHoof

i will agree that NJ isn’t a sure thing, now that would depend on voter fraud, sure if it is an honest election,Obama would lose. I dont trust the philly area though!


7 posted on 12/11/2011 6:01:26 PM PST by The_Obama_Gerbil
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To: SoJoCo

We should focus on Virginia(easy win for GOP), North Carolina(live here and it is going to be a photo finish), Florida(easy win for GOP), wisconsin(can flip to GOP—depends on recall of Scott), Michigan(can easily flip to GOP), Pennsylvania(very good chance after a long time), Ohio(photo finish-—healthcare mandate was won big), New Hamphsire(easy win for GOP), Iowa(win for GOP),New Mexico(Possible for GOP) & Indiana(easy win).


8 posted on 12/11/2011 6:04:00 PM PST by Ranjit
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

well,keep in mind, GOP needs to flip Ohio,Indiana,Virginia,NC,and either Fla or Penn, and Obama is done. and those are the easiest states for the GOP to win.


9 posted on 12/11/2011 6:10:20 PM PST by The_Obama_Gerbil
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To: Ranjit

It’s going to be a ‘bottom up’ election. Won’t see much enthusiasm for the top of either ticket.

Enthusiasm for downstream candidates will drive the volunteers and donations and ultimately the vote.
North Carolina, especially, will depend on the quality of the House candidates.
Gov. Scott’s peril can drive up the anti-Obama vote in Wisc.


10 posted on 12/11/2011 6:19:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

It is way, way, way too early to make that assumption. You are not alone in wishing that it would come to pass, but it’s still way too early.


11 posted on 12/11/2011 6:19:53 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

Have you seen all the forged names on the petitions from 2008 when Obama got on the ballot in Indiana. Many people are stepping forward to verify that they did not sign for Obama! What makes anyone think it won’t happen again in 2012 to bring in the dead people to vote also.


12 posted on 12/11/2011 6:21:22 PM PST by GrannyK
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To: mrsmith

Again, it might be the VP candidate which is going to make a huge difference. Last election, it was a tough hill to climb but this time, VP can make a difference.

I have a feeling that, VP might be Jindaal or Rubio. Any one of them will be great


13 posted on 12/11/2011 6:37:54 PM PST by Ranjit
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To: Ranjit
I have a feeling that, VP might be Jindaal or Rubio.

I kind of doubt Rubio would accept 4 years out in the backwaters attending foreign heads of state funerals. He needs to build more of a record in the senate and be ready to make his move to run for POTUS when the time is right. Jindal - maybe.VP choice historically makes little difference to the outcome. Why do you feel it will be different this time?

14 posted on 12/11/2011 6:48:36 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Ranjit

neither jindal or rubio are natural born and we already have a commie usurper. Try Sarah Palin and you gots a winning ticket.


15 posted on 12/11/2011 6:49:05 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: Ranjit
"I have a feeling that, VP might be Jindaal or Rubio. Any one of them will be great"

Jindal and Rubio are NOT natural born Citizens.

I would NOT vote for the republicans if either Jindal or Rubio are the VP nominee. That includes ANY republican down ticket.

16 posted on 12/11/2011 6:57:48 PM PST by Godebert
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

I predict the fix is already in... as well, I live in NJ, and its scary how many mallet headed liberals still exist here


17 posted on 12/11/2011 6:59:14 PM PST by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

dont count on it


18 posted on 12/11/2011 7:16:47 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Ranjit

“VP might be Jindaal or Rubio”

Jindaal or Rubio would be fantastic, but assuming Newt is the nominee then he can’t pick Jindaal because that would mean two Catholics on the ticket and that may not work.

If the VP is Allan West then that would help with Florida.

Jindaal is the best, but Louisiana doesn’t add a lot to the numbers — and he is also Catholic.

Seems like Rubio would be ideal if he would accept.


19 posted on 12/11/2011 7:19:00 PM PST by garjog
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil
JOHN CORZINE (D)

(D)= A-ok

20 posted on 12/11/2011 7:24:16 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, and Ohio should be a certainty. New Hampshire is all that is needed.


21 posted on 12/11/2011 7:28:18 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

It’s not voter fraud, there are tons of inner cities, unions, demorats who work in new York, liberal Jews, the list is endless.

Dems were just reelected to conrol the legislature.

And I don’t think Corzine will do a damn thing, in New Jersey anyway.


22 posted on 12/11/2011 7:39:15 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Godebert

Good don’t vote for them.

I will vote for Rubio for any office.


23 posted on 12/11/2011 7:44:21 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Ranjit

Well, I can imagine how badly McCain would have lost but for Palin... and Bush needed a Cheney.

But I don’t see the VP making as big a difference this time.
We’re gonna have more-or-less a RINO at the top.
The down-ballot races are gonna have to be where the passion is.


24 posted on 12/11/2011 7:45:03 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

Of the states you listed, I think the safest bets right now are (in order) North Carolina, Indiana, and Virginia.

Obama took North Carolina by a third of a percent and Indiana by just a hair over 1% in a year when the GOP fielded the weakest nominee in a generation, in an environment that was the most politically toxic environment for Republicans since Watergate. And in the case of Indiana, he probably still only won the state because Lake County is, for all intents and purposes, part of the Chicago Metro Area. Both those states should go GOP this time. Virginia is (IMHO) very likely to go GOP, but you never know with the D.C. types living in NoVa. A decent GOP ticket should be able to carry it.

As for the rest, my SWAG’s (Scientific Wild Arse Guesses)

Florida: Right now, I’d bet 60/40 it goes GOP.

Ohio: Tossup. Could go either way, maybe slight GOP
favorite (Ohio FRiends feel free to correct/educate me here)

PA: 55/45 chance in favor of the Democrats. A tough fight for Republicans, but absolutely winnable.

NJ: Obama carries it by 7-9 points.


25 posted on 12/11/2011 7:47:06 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

Why would you even assume that??.Christie is not all that popular in Jersey and the biggest shaker and mover politically in the state is the teacher’s union and they’ll be out in droves for DaBama.


26 posted on 12/11/2011 8:13:07 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: mrsmith

How about Gov Susan Martinez of NM...a swing state, a female, and an Hispanic.


27 posted on 12/11/2011 8:43:57 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Godebert

Which just goes to show you how far over the edge kooky birtherism has lead some people.


28 posted on 12/11/2011 8:44:49 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil
Obama's chances of winning are as equal to M.C. Hammer making a Comeback!

0bambi and Senior Advisers (those old balding white geezers)

Advisor: "Yes Mr President....the odds of your re-election are about the same as the coin landing on its edge."

29 posted on 12/11/2011 8:49:11 PM PST by spokeshave
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To: The_Obama_Gerbil

NJ is way outside our reach. Actually, I’m a bit concerned about NV and CO. Even if we can win FL, OH, IA, VA, NC, and even NH, I think we will still lose without NV and CO. Assuming, of course, none of the ‘purple states’ like WI, MI, or PA goes Republican, which next year might be.


30 posted on 12/11/2011 10:37:38 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: OrangeHoof

“Any strategy that assumes we will win in New Jersey is utter foolishness.”

I am afraid that is true. It would be great if the R’s took Jersey, but it’s nothing to count on.


31 posted on 12/12/2011 12:10:21 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Minn

You are either a coward or a traitor. Or both.


32 posted on 12/12/2011 10:57:57 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Godebert

Yep. You aren’t nuts, just more patriotic and brave than the sane people. That’s it for sure.


33 posted on 12/12/2011 2:20:53 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: ez

A wise choice: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mexico-gov-susana-martinez-republican-party-vice-presidential-194521974.html.


34 posted on 12/12/2011 4:20:13 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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