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Palin run could complicate Bachmann’s candidacy
The Minnesota Independent ^ | July 8, 2011 | Jon Collins

Posted on 07/08/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Minnesota congresswoman and Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann has been rocketing up polls in early primary and caucus states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

Some grassroots activists, as the Iowa Independent reported, are convinced that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will jump into the race. How would that affect Bachmann’s shot at the nomination in these early-voting states?

On the surface, Palin and Bachmann have much in common, including their support of the tea party movement. But the entry of Palin into the race wouldn’t necessarily hurt Bachmann more than most other candidates, University of Iowa Political Science Professor Tim Hagle told the Minnesota Independent.

In a race where former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum and Herman Cain are all jockeying for the same tea party crowd, a new entry would likely pull from all those conservative candidates.

“That group of voters that all those candidates are competing for would be divided up and that would leave room for a slightly more moderate Republican to come in and perhaps to get a victory,” Hagle said.

Bachmann has risen into second place behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who’s widely considered to be the moderate in the race, in early polling in Iowa and New Hampshire. But being in the lead without Palin to attract some of the early criticism could be dangerous for Bachmann.

“If it looks like she is — as people have been describing her — the alternative to Romney, then it means she’s probably going to come under more fire,” Hagle said.

Still, support in early polls for all Republican candidates is softer than in recent years, opening up the possibility that voters would more willingly switch their allegiances to a late entry like Palin.

“It gives that opportunity for someone who really has that star-power and pizzazz and charisma to scoop up a lot of these people,” Hagle said. “Bachmann seems to have a lot of star-power — but not as much as Palin.”

If conservatives don’t coalesce around one inspiring candidate, Palin could potentially wait as long as Thanksgiving to enter the race, Hagle said, because she is so well-known in conservative circles — although no candidate has previously had much success with such a late entry in the state.

One of Bachmann’s main strengths over Palin are her favorability numbers. In the most recent Iowa polls, she came in at the top with likely Republican primary voters, with only 12 percent viewing her unfavorably. Despite press coverage of some high-profile gaffes, Bachmann managed to carry a similar favorability rating into the poll release this week from New Hampshire.

Palin, because she is already well-known, will have trouble shifting the fairly high negative opinions people have already formed of her, said Hagle, whereas views of Bachmann have had less time to harden.

For both Bachmann and Palin, a repeat of the 2008 presidential campaign, where people construed some Democratic attacks on Palin to be sexist, could backfire for Democrats, Hagle said.

“It caught a lot of Republicans off balance, they didn’t expect that kind of attack on Palin,” Hagle said. “Even though Bachmann got a little of that already, I think there would be much more push-back this time.”


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cultofpalin; iowa; michelebachmann; palin; romney; sarahpalin; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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Has a political science professor ever been right about anything? That Larry Sabato guy out of Virginia is wrong so often you could probably predict things just by doing a 180 on his analysis. "No candidate" he says? Was President Reagan chopped liver, professor?
1 posted on 07/08/2011 2:31:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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How would that affect Bachmann’s shot at the nomination in these early-voting states?

Images of the Hindenburg come to mind...

2 posted on 07/08/2011 2:34:37 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Palin run could complicate Bachmann’s candidacy”

As my old man would say, “who gives a shit?”

Thinking about it, I guess I would say that too.


3 posted on 07/08/2011 2:35:35 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

They REALLY want it to be Bachmann...and REALLY do NOT want it to be Sarah.


4 posted on 07/08/2011 2:36:26 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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Palin run could complicate Bachmann’s candidacy

Either Palin or Bachmann could decimate the chances of a liberal working out of the Oval Office and that is a good thing!

5 posted on 07/08/2011 2:36:58 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: jessduntno

I get that feeling too.


6 posted on 07/08/2011 2:39:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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"Palin run could complicate Bachmann’s candidacy "

May the best woman win....
7 posted on 07/08/2011 2:42:48 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I knew Hagle the professor in this article. Ok guy but he was always very political establishment to me.


8 posted on 07/08/2011 2:43:47 PM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: jessduntno

Yep...and it means one thing...the media has a whole arsenal to unload on Bachmann if she gets the nod. They have run out of fake bullets on Palin.

RUN SARAH RUN!!


9 posted on 07/08/2011 2:46:01 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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Comparing Bachmann to Palin is like comparing Cheese Wiz to Fine Cheddar. Palin being the fine cheddar.

Bologna to steak whatever you like. Bachmann is no Palin, case closed


10 posted on 07/08/2011 2:46:25 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge (DID I MENTION......SARAH PALIN OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: penelopesire

Perry runs, Sarah endorses Perry, game over.

Not an advocacy, just a prediction.


11 posted on 07/08/2011 2:49:01 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: jessduntno

I really want it to be palin too!!!


12 posted on 07/08/2011 2:50:09 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Whats a Hindenburg?


13 posted on 07/08/2011 2:51:35 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: traderrob6

If Palin doesn’t run, I will vote for Perry over Backmann or anyone else in the field right now. He has his problems, but he has come a long way in the last few years. Bachmann lost any support I might give her when she hired Ed Rollins.


14 posted on 07/08/2011 2:52:59 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Cheese wiz and Palin sounds like fun


15 posted on 07/08/2011 2:53:34 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: al baby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster


16 posted on 07/08/2011 2:54:25 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: al baby

Basically a gas bag that blew up...


17 posted on 07/08/2011 2:55:25 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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18 posted on 07/08/2011 2:55:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: al baby

Or more appropriately a gas bag that was hit by a bolt of lightening and crashed.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 2:57:10 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oy vey. Palin is my choice. If by some unfortunate turn of events she chooses not to run, I’ll have to carefully survey the field. Bachmann is not my second choice, because I don’t yet have a second choice.


20 posted on 07/08/2011 2:58:13 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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