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Rove: Americans fear Palin lacks the gravitas to be their president (There he goes again!)
The Vancouver Sun ^ | October 27, 2010 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 10/27/2010 3:38:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Karl Rove, the former senior adviser to George W Bush, has cast serious doubt on Sarah Palin's viability as a White House candidate, questioning if the American people thought she had the "gravitas" for the "most demanding job in the world".

Expressing the strongest public reservations about the conservative star made by any senior Republican figure, Mr Rove said it was unlikely that voters would regard someone starring in a reality show as presidential material.

In two weeks, the former governor of Alaska launches a cable television series exploring her home state's wilderness.

"With all due candour, appearing on your own reality show on the Discovery Channel, I am not certain how that fits in the American calculus of 'that helps me see you in the Oval Office'," said Mr Rove, who remains a considerable force on the U.S. political scene.

He added that the promotional clip for Sarah Palin's Alaska could be especially detrimental to any political campaign. It features the mother of five in the great outdoors saying: "I would rather be doing this than in some stuffy old political office."

Mr Rove also implied that Mrs Palin lacked the stomach for the rigours of a presidential primary campaign, which will begin early next year before the first polls in 2012.

Mr Rove was asked if 46-year-old Mrs Palin, who is among the front-runners for the next Republican nomination, would be a wise choice if the party wanted to seize the White House from President Barack Obama. He replied: "You can make a plausible case for any of them on paper, but it is not going to be paper in 2011. It's going to be blood, it's going to be sweat and tears and it's going to be hard effort."

He said Mrs Palin had done a "terrific job" in 2008 when Senator John McCain took her from near obscurity to the vice-presidential nomination, but added: "Being the vice-presidential nominee on the ticket is different from saying 'I want to be the person at the top of the ticket'.

"There are high standards that the American people have for it [the presidency] and they require a certain level of gravitas, and they want to look at the candidate and say 'that candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world'."

After losing with Mr McCain in 2008, Mrs Palin resigned as governor to write books, become a television pundit - on the same Fox News network where Mr Rove is an analyst - and an influential supporter of Tea Party-backed Republican candidates in next week's mid-term elections.

Thanks to her staunch conservative views, Mrs Palin remains a highly divisive figure with high negative ratings. Many Republican strategists think her selection as nominee would almost guarantee Mr Obama a second term.

But such is her popularity among the grassroots of the party, few in Washington are prepared to stick their head above the parapet.

No major figure in the party has yet to come out in support of Mrs Palin, including Mr McCain, who refused to endorse her yesterday.

Mr Rove's forceful comments signalled his confidence in his own standing and track record as the architect of Mr Bush's two election victories. She could face further attacks from within the party's hierarchy in the coming months as the competition for the nomination heats up.

All the indications are that Mrs Palin will run for office. She has delivered a speech in Iowa, where the first caucuses are held, quietly accumulated members of staff and has a sizeable pot of money.

But Mr Rove suggested that "outside of the true believers", most Republican primary voters were still watching the race and would choose the candidate most suitable for the role. "They are going to be saying 'the person who can win is the person who proves to me that they are up to the job'," he said.


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The RINO establishment fears her as much as the democrats, it seems.
1 posted on 10/27/2010 3:38:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, what is it about this lady that seems to freak them out. LOL


2 posted on 10/27/2010 3:39:51 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, appearing on TV didn’t hurt Fred Thompson. Oh, wait a minute . . . .


3 posted on 10/27/2010 3:41:34 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He can’t keep his foot out of his mouth. I’m glad he helped raise money but he AIN’T SO SMART.


4 posted on 10/27/2010 3:41:53 PM PDT by libbylu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am very proud never have been a Freeper to have uttered [typed] this inglorious phrase: "Rove, you magnificent bastard!"......if anything, I'd say that it just should be "plain- bastard"....

Screw him....jumped the shark like Fonzie, only Rove don't even got no leather jacket....morelike a whirly-beanie cap, prissy boy shorts and suspenders, and a big-ass lollypop in one hand while holding a Smurf Balloon in the other hand....

5 posted on 10/27/2010 3:41:58 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Rove..put a sock in it already! Either that or just go to the Dem side and start working for them, you know you want to


6 posted on 10/27/2010 3:42:06 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gov. Sarah Palin appeared repeatedly
in the run-up to Tuesday's elections.
Like that patriot the Lady is, she SHOWED UP.

Mitt Romney only made "appearances" indirectly
through his saboteurs, through his controlled media,
against Gov. Palin, Ms. O'Donnell,
and other conservatives whom he regards as 'enemies'.


“Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt.”


“Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,” grumbled one veteran Republican strategist.”


“Rove has made no secret of his support for Romney as McCain’s VP. ”

7 posted on 10/27/2010 3:42:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FUKR. I guess you need a job, well as Sarah said, “buck up or sit in the Truck.” to which I would add “sit in the truck and shut the f**k up!!”


8 posted on 10/27/2010 3:42:54 PM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Damned elitists!


9 posted on 10/27/2010 3:43:13 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She gets my vote.....Rove can KMA !

Tired of this punk polidiot pundit.


10 posted on 10/27/2010 3:43:34 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

STFU Doughboy!!!


11 posted on 10/27/2010 3:43:58 PM PDT by avacado
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To: 1rudeboy

If you ever got to cash even one of his paychecks, you’d be able to get that doublewide you always wanted and your teeth fixed. Maybe even get the Camaro off those concrete blocks and shoes for the kids.


12 posted on 10/27/2010 3:44:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rove isn't helping himself, IMO.

He needs to go away...after this election.

13 posted on 10/27/2010 3:44:50 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bull’s Eye by Karl Rove.


14 posted on 10/27/2010 3:45:26 PM PDT by FloridaSunrise
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not sophisticated enough, eh Karl?


15 posted on 10/27/2010 3:45:35 PM PDT by Carley (VOTE AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove and the country club republicans want to run one of their own. Some old clunker like Dole and McCain.


16 posted on 10/27/2010 3:45:50 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beat it, Karl. You’re a loser. Move to Anguilla and live on your dividends.

Maybe we need upbeat redneck elan, instead of “gravitas.” Anyway, Sarah can hit the serious note when it’s appropriate. She’s very serious about protecting handicapped children, for example.


17 posted on 10/27/2010 3:46:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If I had two dead rats, I'd give you one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No need to go full retard on me, I’m just making the same observation as Rove. If Palin wants to make a run in 2012, then she has more important things to be doing than appearing on the Discovery Channel.


18 posted on 10/27/2010 3:47:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's time for conservative voters to tell Rove to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!!
19 posted on 10/27/2010 3:47:59 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: FloridaSunrise; darkwing104; Old Sarge; EveningStar

Sniff, sniff at #14.


20 posted on 10/27/2010 3:48:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey Rove, anyone who helped put WBush in office has no right to weigh in on which CONSERVATIVES are qualified to run. You are the architect of the New Tone, an abject failure if ever there was one. Your old boy Yale-club GOP is headed out and the tea party you deride so effortlessly is replacing them.

So long Karl, take a bow and go away with some class.


21 posted on 10/27/2010 3:48:26 PM PDT by moodyskeptic (Cultural warrior with a keyboard)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ruling class, does indeed fear her. That includes the Washington lobbyist as well.


22 posted on 10/27/2010 3:50:00 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What, exactly, is Barack Obama's "gravitas"?

Right.

I suspect I know what sort of "gravitas" currently informs Karl Rove's motivation: a check signed by Mitt Romney.

23 posted on 10/27/2010 3:49:59 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"There are high standards that the American people have for it [the presidency] and they require a certain level of gravitas, and they want to look at the candidate and say 'that candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world'."

It can't be all that demanding if both Duh!bya and Oh!Brother have done it.

24 posted on 10/27/2010 3:49:59 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did Rove really leave his wife for Ken Mehlman?


25 posted on 10/27/2010 3:50:20 PM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First, Rove disgraced himself over the ODonnell episode. I think he’s finished.

Secondly, I often asked the same question about Palin. I have always liked her, the main reason I voted for McCain was for her sake.

But I’ve questioned if she had the “gravitas” to be president. But here’s the deal. In the aftermath of O’s election, the GOP was so demoralized I think they were ready to throw in the towel; they were jumping through hoops trying to prove to Obama that they could be good partners in government. I said then that the field was wide open; anyone who wanted to be president, even if they had a spotty past, even if their conservative credentials were a bit weak in the past, whatever the baggage, they could easily put it behind them if they were willing to fight, to get into O’s face, and fight.

I kept waiting for the heavy-weights to step forward. Romney? AWOL. Gingrich? Made a good show, but then blew it over Scozzafava. Huck? Please. The one who has consistently fought from day one to stop the O, the one who has been most bold about confronting him, the one who has been all around the country supporting GOP candidates, has been Palin.

The one who has never been embarrassed of the Tea Party Repubs is Palin. There are a couple of others, and they are all on my short list; DeMint, Bachmann, Ryan, Pence, and thats pretty much it. She has reshaped the battle-space and if she stays on the offensive these next two years I have no doubt she will be in the White House.

Gravitas? Whatever. She fights. Find me someone with gravitas who fights, and I’ll support them too. The heavies all instinctively see her as their enemy while she has always seen O as the one she had to beat. Different mentality. This is why she will be president and they won’t.


26 posted on 10/27/2010 3:50:38 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Karl Rove, the former senior adviser to George W Bush, has cast serious doubt on Sarah Palin's viability as a White House candidate

In order to retain some relevance in the today's media, and continue to sell books/columns, Rove has to continually "stir the pot". He is just another "talking head" making a buck on you and me. Not much he says carries much weight...any more.

27 posted on 10/27/2010 3:50:47 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somehow, moderating whatever show he did way back when didn’t seem to hurt Reagan.


28 posted on 10/27/2010 3:51:16 PM PDT by Marathoner (The only reaching across the aisle I want to see is to smack the bejeebers out of someone.)
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There are high standards that the American people have for it [the presidency] and they require a certain level of gravitas,...

Come on, Rove. Do you even know who's in the Oval Office right now?

29 posted on 10/27/2010 3:51:50 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see, hmmm...Karl Rove. He’s the same guy who advised George W. Bush to support Arlen Specter instead of Pat Toomey, right? We all know how that turned out.


30 posted on 10/27/2010 3:52:07 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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Rove: Americans fear Palin lacks the gravitas to be their president (There he goes again!)

Karl, you poor demented boob, after Barack Hussein Obama, a gerbil has enough gravitas to be president. Palin will look like a no-nonsense, though cheerful, head of state who, if need be and with a smile, will put a political round through any head of state who needs convincing after Barry's imitation of a used sock.
31 posted on 10/27/2010 3:54:15 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Our soldiers respectfully disagree with Mr. Rove.

Does Rove really think that Obama has more "gravitas"?

32 posted on 10/27/2010 3:54:48 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With all due respect, Mr. Rove, if Bush can handle the rigors of the Presidency, I have no doubt Mrs. Palin can do it. rofl

With that said, there's still a lot of time between now and the next Pres. election so who knows what will happen, but I think his criticism is silly.

33 posted on 10/27/2010 3:55:35 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: marron
I have always liked her, the main reason I voted for McCain was for her sake.

Yeah, me too. I almost voted for Obama./sarc

34 posted on 10/27/2010 3:55:35 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. Rove, I wish you would just be quiet. You are wrong sometimes, you know!


35 posted on 10/27/2010 3:56:09 PM PDT by Swede Girl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is MUCH that is wrong with Rove’s propaganda, but this is, at root, a sexist comment.


36 posted on 10/27/2010 3:56:36 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Americans don’t fear that.Carl Rove fears that.

Why is he so determined to destroy conservative candidates?


37 posted on 10/27/2010 3:56:59 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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Gee Karl, I don’t know. She seems to have bigger ones than all you RINOS put together. She’s taken everything that’s been thrown at her (by the left AND By the likes of you) and she just keeps getting better and stronger, and is still not only standing, but taking the fight directly to the “enemy”.

If that’s not gravitas, I don’t know what is.

And apparently Karl, you don’t know what gravitas is to begin with.


38 posted on 10/27/2010 3:57:38 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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But such is her popularity among the grassroots of the party, few in Washington are prepared to stick their head above the parapet.

... No major figure in the party has yet to come out in support of Mrs Palin, including Mr McCain, who refused to endorse her yesterday.

... She could face further attacks from within the party's hierarchy in the coming months as the competition for the nomination heats up.

Well, those "major figures in the party" and "within the party's hierachy" have surely been keeping a low profile for the past two years.

Can't wait to see which ones stick their heads out first to claim credit for getting all these new conservatives elected.

39 posted on 10/27/2010 3:57:50 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As of today, he is absolutely correct. (He was 100% correct about O’Donnell — although he should have shut his mouth — she has been a disaster and will get trounced next Tuesday.)

Palin may be adored by a large block of Republicans, but some Republicans don’t like her, and she does not appeal to enough independents. One can call the disapproving Republicans RINOs, but it doesn’t change the high likelihood that she isn’t electable today. The Republican ticket needs the RINO vote to win the election...it also needs the independent vote.

Those feelings can change...I vividly remember when establishment Republicans scoffed at the idea of a Hollywood actor — B-rated at that — should ever be president...that was even true in 1980...sort of the George H. W. Bush voters in that primary season.

Sarah hurt her standing in the broad middle of the electorate — although not among the conservative/tea party wing of the party — by resigning the governership. I know there were reasons — MoveOn and Soros were on a personal mission to bankrupt her with daily false accusations — but nevertheless it painted a picture of a ‘quiter’ in some people’s minds. It also deprived her of experience on her resume.

I firmly believe that a HUGE (or make that HUGH) issue in the 2012 election will be experience. The country elected a person who’s never done anything or run anything, and we’re paying dearly as a consequence. The country will want to turn things over to an executive with proven leadership abilities, and 2 years as a mayor and an aborted term as governor present a weak resume.

Sarah would be in much better position if she runs for elected office again — too bad she didn’t run for Senate this year — and build up her experience. She’d be much more marketable to the general population. She’s young and she has the time.


40 posted on 10/27/2010 3:58:34 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Karl’s definition of courage is disparaging conservative women who can kick his @ass...


41 posted on 10/27/2010 4:00:37 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there was ever any doubt this election is about RINOs vs. the Tea Party, it is now completely gone.


42 posted on 10/27/2010 4:00:44 PM PDT by rintense
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes,

She's not 71 and hasn't been in the top tiers of the party for the last 30 years. Hence, she's not qualified, since after all the Republican party works on seniority sort of like a Union.

That's why they get awesome candidates like Dole, McCain........... they paid their dues, hence they have “gravitas.”/sarc

43 posted on 10/27/2010 4:01:15 PM PDT by Red6 (IMHO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, compared to the “gravitas” of Zero: “I’m going home to scoop the poop.”


44 posted on 10/27/2010 4:02:45 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: EyeGuy

“There is MUCH that is wrong with Rove’s propaganda, but this is, at root, a sexist comment.”

I had the exact same thought.


45 posted on 10/27/2010 4:02:46 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RINO Rove is an idiot.


46 posted on 10/27/2010 4:10:08 PM PDT by devere
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To: Cousin Eddie

“Sarah hurt her standing in the broad middle of the electorate”

I guess they never saw these numbers from Rasmussenand and last week Gallup confirmed the numbers.

Whose views are closer to your own? Palin/Obama

Overall: 52/40

Male: 55/37
Female: 48/43
White: 58/35
Black: 5/87
GOP: 84/9
DEM: 14/81
INDY: 59/27
Conservative: 80/12
Moderate: 28/61
Liberal: 14/85

Or these:

“.....76% of Republicans and 52% of unaffiliated voters now hold a favorable opinion of Palin.”

“...Unaffiliated voters by a 41% to 36% margin see Palin as good for the GOP.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2592751/posts?q=1&;page=1


47 posted on 10/27/2010 4:11:00 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Cousin Eddie

The resignation was a tactical retreat, for the sake of her family, and whether you choose to believe it or not, the state of Alaska. After regrouping, she came back out for the sake of the country and her (and everyone else’s) children’s future.

Make no mistake: Sarah Palin is a fighter!

If she wasn’t, why would there be such a push to take her down?


48 posted on 10/27/2010 4:11:34 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Cousin Eddie
Palin may be adored by a large block of Republicans, but some Republicans don’t like her, and she does not appeal to enough independents. One can call the disapproving Republicans RINOs, but it doesn’t change the high likelihood that she isn’t electable today.

Palin is positioned fine to take the primary. Do you think that Rove is against Mitt Romney? A man that only won one election in 18 years in politics, and that left that office with 34% approval and that turned that Governor's seat over to the the Democrats?

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49 posted on 10/27/2010 4:11:59 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Al B.; Brices Crossroads; Virginia Ridgerunner; Clyde5445; Lakeshark

By Alex Spillius (again) - in between the journ0list’s opinion and ROVE’s few quotes, ROVE has finally come out of his RINO CLOSET to “talk about” Sarah Palin!

PLEASE SAY THE SAME ON FOX NEWS CHANNEL!


50 posted on 10/27/2010 4:12:43 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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