Posted on 02/04/2010 2:25:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The house of cards is falling. And I am making gravy to savor the taste of his defeat!
Again, if you want to pursue this silly issue, you are only undermining the credibility of conservativism.
Not all. NOBODY (even the most rabid birther) ever expressed any problem at the time with the fact that Spiro Agnew and Dukakis had foreign born fathers. Why start with Obama?
It would be interesting to see this drawn up on glen becks chalkboard.
You Rock. My thoughts to. Hey Bill do not let the facts get in your way.
Thanks. No, Bill would never do that. lol
Beck will never talk about this. This is the one subject Obama threatened the royal crap out of the media heads if they allowed it to be reported.
Interestingly enough, I’ve been trying to post at Hot Air about some of this stuff. My posts are disappearing. I’m wondering if Obama’s legions have threatened Fox again and so Michelle Malkin is censoring the blog.
People have got to realize that this is a criminal enterprise we’re dealing with, and if they can get away with this they won’t stop until we are Mexico, where the person who crosses the “boss” gets his face sewn onto a soccer ball.
I’ll post this from my blog to explain why I believe this is vital to us all. If you click the link at the bottom you will see the crimes involved in this one issue:
News reports stated that in Mexico, drug lords killed a rival member and sewed his face onto a soccer ball. The difference between Mexico and The USA is law enforcement. In Mexico law enforcement is sold to the highest bidder. If America ever reaches that point, guard your children because anything can happen to them and you cant do a thing to stop it.
Obamas eligibility is and always has been about law enforcement, because our entire system of law enforcement of already-existing laws has utterly failed. This has nothing to do with politics.
It doesnt much matter whether the guy with his face sewn on the soccer ball was a democrat or republican, or whether he favored or opposed healthcare reform or any other political issue. If there is nobody willing to enforce a law, that law doesnt exist. Period. Why argue about what laws get made and by whom, if the laws we have are enforced like Mexicos?
That is the issue here. You can say, as did our Senators a few years ago regarding perjury and obstruction of justice, Tee-hee. Its just about sex. It doesnt matter. Or in this case you can say, The birthers are crazy. Move on.
The subject of the investigation is irrelevant; the fact that law enforcement refuses to investigate is the issue. When lawless people get control of a system and manipulate what gets enforced, youve become Chicago. Or Mexico. Today the subject not being investigated is the violation of open records laws and government cover-up of known forgery. Those crimes have allowed a person into office who has committed extortion (threatening anyone who would report on Obamas eligibility, as well as lawyers for car dealers) and who violated bankruptcy law to steal money from secured investors and give it to unions instead.
You can laugh at extortion & government cover-ups of forgery and perjury if you think its just about tee-hee birthers, but Im telling you right now: If law enforcement doesnt matter, then welcome to Mexico. I hope your children have a good time kicking your face when they see it sewn onto a soccer ball. Because by refusing to address this you are consigning your children to that kind of world.
Seriously think about The Dark Knight which gave my kids nightmares for weeks. Watch it again so you can clearly remember what lawlessness looks and feels like. If, like me, you would die before willingly handing your kids future over to lawlessness, then keep reading at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/
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I watch Bill's show regularly. I don't always agree with him.
This is one time I don't agree with him: Obama should show us his long form Hawaii birth certificate so that he can put to rest the question of whether or not he was born at Kapiolani hospital as he claims and the question as to the name of the doctor who delivered him.
We pretty much already know Obama wasn’t born in a Hawaii hospital - unless what is on his birth certificate now is something different than what the doctor originally signed his name to. That is another implication of the fact that Obama’s birth record has been amended and someone paid to amend it - since only amendments which are the fault of the registrant incur a fee. From my blog at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ :
6. Kapiolani Hospital received a letter signed by Obama on White House stationery and with raised seal claiming Obama was born there, even though that could only be true if Obamas amendment contradicted the doctors testimony. If he had been born in a Hawaii hospital the hospital itself would have been responsible for the content on the birth certificate and the DOH responsible for any clerical typos. The only way Obama would be charged for an amendment is:
a) if he or his representative claimed to have filled out the certificate themselves and erred, or
b) if Obama claimed the doctors testimony was wrong.
I said not an American citizen, not foreign born: Were Vice President Agnew and Governor Dukakis’ fathers American citizens by the time their sons were born? That’s what matters, not the country of their birth. As I understand it, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama, Senior never was an American citizen, if he was indeed Junior’s father.
They’d still be putting out the fires from the rioting if Vice President Cheney, Chief Justice Roberts or ANY other white official had questioned Mr. Obama’s eligiblity for the presidency, and you know it!
So you think more information should be pursued .. do tell HOW you think it should be obtained, by asking Barry nicely? You don’t think the media is going to suddenly start asking questions, do you?
Or maybe the only possibility is thru the legal system where, as a practical matter, it’s the only place it can be pursued. In some cases, and we won’t mention any names, it’s been handled as poorly as I’ve ever seen; in others it’s being pursued more professionally. But there really is no alternative to using the courts if any information is ever to be forthcoming.
Yes, if we want conservatives to get elected, we should give up conservative principles! Fantastic idea, concern troll.
Conservatives should also switch to pro-socialism if it gets them more votes, am I right?
If we do not defend rule of law and our Constitution we will soon look like a banana republic.
We have managed riots before. We can again.
Okay, I don’t know whether Agnew and Dukakis’s fathers even bothered to become citizens (many immigrants back then did not) but do you REALLY think anyone would care? Obama’s mother is American; therefore he is a natural-born citizen. We need to sink him with him with his socialist ideas nad policies not this silly blind alley. This obsession only makes conservatives look like conspiratorial cranks.
Spare me the “concern troll”, “pro-socialist” nonsense. Disagreement with you does not a “socialist” or “troll” make.
I think the BC issue distracts from conservatism, rather than helping the cause. Regardless of your personal distaste for the menial quest to “get more votes” — votes do matter in a democratic republic. For better or worse, people simply don’t care about this issue ... they view it as a petty political game, and it is off-putting.
People care about economics, taxes, national security, jobs, health care costs, immigration, excessive government, abortion, etc., etc., etc. These are ALL winning issues for conservatism ... and, for some reason, people on this board would rather scream to high heaven about a losing issue than highlight one of the 50 winning issues.
Our sole purpose at this point is to use the example of liberalism/socialism displayed Obama to convert hearts and minds to conservatism. It would be ridiculous to squander a Carteresque opportunity like this because we were distracted by a peripheral issue. Seize the moment.
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Did you look at the site to see what I am claiming? http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/
I am claiming that Obama has committed forgery and almost everybody in Hawaii is breaking laws in order to cover for him.
Exactly what they’re covering up remains to be seen. Whether Obama is eligible remains to be seen. But crimes are being committed in order to cover up something, and NOBODY in law enforcement will investigate. That is why I say anybody who cares about the rule of law has to care about this issue. If all our government agencies are just cover guys for whatever regime is in power, we may as well be living in Mexico.
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