10:19 AM: McCain lead in Indiana up to more than 97,000 votes

http://www.in.gov/apps/sos/election/general/general2008?page=office&countyID=-1&officeID=36&districtID=-1&candidate ^

[flintsilver7]

Indiana is still updating its website and it appears that McCain's lead is growing.

[yldstrk]

Same with Missouri, hope everybody else keeps counting

[Abathar]

It may not matter to the rest of the nation, but as a Hoosier who worked hard on this election in sure as hell matters to me.

[MrChips]

Looks like 8 counties not yet reporting. Last night there were 9.

[LottieDah]

Does it really matter? Obama has been annointed and crowned.

[The_Victor]

Great, but it’s not like this is going to alter the outcome of the election.

[Galtoid]

What’s wrong with Indiana? Why so late?

[AU72]

Indiana is lucky they weren’t the deciding State in a close election. They’d be overun with rats right now.

[yldstrk]

Electoral voting not done. No legal effect as to what has happened so far.

[Elvina]

Thanks for letting us know this. I had no idea that Indiana was still counting and that McCain was ahead. At least our near neighbors have some sanity, as here in Michigan we have sadly just gotten more blue this election (in more ways than one).

[Rightly Biased]

This is why the media should not call states McRino has conceded.

So its over except for all the vote counting.

[Proud2BeRight]

What are these votes? Absentee?

[A message]

As it should.

Originally a Buckeye moved to California my job offers a number of options when I move away from this California he!!-hole. The Hoosier state figures prominently in my plans.

Give me hope Hoosiers!

[Mashood]

.... and McCain has conceded.

[TMA62]

Me too. There is pride on the line here.

[RckyRaCoCo]

Have all the ACORN fraud in Gary been counted yet?

The Borg Barack says "you will be assimilated also".

[flintsilver7]

Absentee and provisional, I would guess.

I would really like to know why the Indiana SOS website, updating regularly, has such radically different numbers than news networks.

[beaversmom]

I can understand your sentiments and as a Colorado person I would be happy to see Indiana flip to McCain too. Do you think there’s a chance of that happening?

[MasonGal]

That would make this born and bred Buckeye, now living in Hoosierland happy!!

It’s bad enough Ohio went blue, but Indiana, too...yikes!

[gracesdad]

“Indiana is lucky they weren’t the deciding State in a close election. They’d be overun with rats right now.”

Believe me, not just rats. Every other lawyer in America would be there.

[TMA62]

Me too. There is pride on the line here.

[Owen]

You do realize that the website in your link shows vote totals far below those on the CNN site, as if it’s far behind CNN?

[Proud2BeRight]

If this is true and the state flips back to America, it will be interesting to see how the media covers it. I saw glowing happy news slugs gloating over this state going blue after the media declared it for Comrade Zero.

[Ranjit]

Great, but it’s not like this is going to alter the outcome of the election.

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It is important. Perception is everything in politics. If you give an impression that Indiana went for Obama, it will make them work hard on other red states. Look at North Carolina. We lost by 11 or 12 K but, it will be projected as blue state. It is not. Althought democrats are more in this state, they never vote for democrats in presidential election. It is still a conservative state but they got this idea that, they can change North carolina into a real blue state.

[TheGeezer]

Heck, I read an article this morning about how Obama turned Indiana blue. If not true, that’s cool.

[Dustbunny]

I wonder which other states are still counting?

[slnk_rules]

Believe me, not just rats. Every other lawyer in America would be there

That, sir, is what you call "redundancy"

[melissa_in_ga]

Gore conceded and then retracted. Even several days after the fact, can McCain not retract concession and wait for absentee and provisional ballots to be counted?

Although at this point I doubt Governor Palin (God Bless her!) would want to be associated with him.

[chimera]

Why is it taking so long? They’re going to have to send Electors to the EC fairly soon. Are they going to make that deadline?

[Ranjit]

At least our near neighbors have some sanity, as here in Michigan we have sadly just gotten more blue this election (in more ways than one).

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We need to take page from democrats. If it is a blue state and if it is within a margin 5 to 10%, we should build ground work in those states. It is easy to flip 5% in an election. If they flip 12% win of Bush to win North carolina, we should be able do that in blue states. Just talking about conservative values is not going to help. We need more registration, more ground work and more people to volunteer. If not, we will be a dying breed.

[flintsilver7]

Yes, I already acknowledged that and I would certainly like to know why. CNN is showing Marion county with a more than 100,000 vote margin for Obama but the SOS website shows them as not yet reporting. Do the counties call CNN first? Does the SOS report to the major networks before updating their own website? If that’s true, why are they still updating it every few minutes?

[MAD-AS-HELL]

It will once it’s shown that Obama wasn’t born in the United States! :P

[Walkingfeather]

What is in indiana worth caring about.?

[jaydubya2]

Same here. I'm embarrassed about the direction Indiana took.

Also, this disclaimer was not on the SOS web site yesterday:

"Note: These results are NOT yet official. A number of counties have yet to provide their data to the state."

[Girlene]

I would really like to know why the Indiana SOS website, updating regularly, has such radically different numbers than news networks.

The SOS's site is just confirming official numbers for Indiana counties. So far there are still 8 counties that haven't been officially approved. The largest in voter count still out, Marion, had an expected 105,000 plus vote margin of Obama over Mccain. Unless there are some issues with provisional ballots that weren't included in the numbers on election night, I don't expect to see significantly different results than reported on election night. We'll see.

[A_Tradition_Continues]

Do you realize that the CNN site showing vote total is based on exit polls only. I’ll take the word of the Indiana SOS any day over CNN.

[MilspecRob]

Dream on, it’s over.

[flintsilver7]

Did they provide their data to CNN?

[Blue Turtle]

I guess the country still is DIVIDED and it ain’t Bush’s fault....AND Obama certainly does NOT have a mandate. That’s what this tells me. Also, blacks cannot claim racism anymore...affirmative action should be closed down...and hopefully blacks will soon realize that their messiah is NOT going to save them or help them.

[indylindy]

The news networks do not have the certified count.

They make the calls based on exit polling.

The certified count is the official count.

[flintsilver7]

Marion county turned out 314,000 in 2004 with a 51-49 Kerry margin. Have they turned out an additional 15% with a 2-1 lead for Obama? Sure, it’s possible. It’s convenient how that’s the last major county not reporting.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

364 to 173 is an electoral college landslide and pretty much a strong mandate. Get that down to 300 to 237 and it’s a lot closer, less of a mandate.

[LottieDah]

“Get that down to 300 to 237 and it’s a lot closer, less of a mandate.”

Great point!

[indylindy]

Indiana had a lot of reported suspicious activity. ACORN in bigger cities.

[Fee]

If GWB did not endorse MFN, conservative textile and light manufacturing communities would provide the margin of victory for McCain. Instead the GOP catered to the free traders, passed MFN, WTO and want even more free trade with Latin America, and the blue collar Reagan Dems went with BO. You can not lead an Army to victory if you start screwing the troops who support you.

[jaydubya2]

I don't know where CNN or the other networks get their data.

Also on the SOS web site:
"The election night returns reported on the "Live Election Returns" area of this site are not yet final and official, but represent what is known as the "Election Night Canvass."

[Elvina]

You are right. We “rich Republicans” were vastly outspent by B Hussein. Since many of us are working families with tight budgets, volunteering is one way we can get the word out next time. I have been a bit lukewarm on the Republicans in recent years, but that is the best structure we have at this point so we need to get strongly behind it.

[Mashood]

Nowadays, anything is possible. Taking both IN and NC would not change the outcome (victory) since he lost Penn. and Florida.

Palin should be proud of her accomplishments... notice that the media wants facetime with her and NOT McCain.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

You’re right. If we didn’t let those companies outsource most of their production, those jobs - and the jobs and receipts of the bosses and company owners - would have been lost as well...

Better to let the company die altogether on US soil rather than survive with manufacturing overseas!

/sarc

[Girlene]

Marion county turned out 314,000 in 2004 with a 51-49 Kerry margin. Have they turned out an additional 15% with a 2-1 lead for Obama? Sure, it’s possible. It’s convenient how that’s the last major county not reporting.

I thought Marion County was much more skewed toward Dem's in 2004 (not the state). I'll take your word. If so that would be :

2004 Dems --153,860 to Reps -- 160,140

Projected from CNN is a total vote count of 368,734
2008 Dems --237,275 to Reps -- 131,459.

Yes, that's a big swing and a pretty good increase in total votes for Marion County. Interesting.

Do you have a 2004 vote count for Lake County as a comparison? They are heavily democrat.