UFOs, ancient aircraft, NASA coverup, mumbo-jumbo etc etc (Hmmmmm + tinfoil alert)

A small model of what has been called a "glider" plane was found in a museum in Cairo. Its body was just over 6" long and its wingspan was a little over 7". Made of light sycamore wood, it would glide a short distance when thrown by hand. Other models of aircraft have been found in Egypt and South America. One of them bears a striking resemblance to a modern delta-winged jet!

Sanskrit texts are filled with references to gods who fought battles in the sky using Vimanas equipped with weapons as deadly as any we can deploy in these more enlightened times. For example, there is a passage in the Ramayana which reads:

"The Puspaka car that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravan; that aerial and excellent car going everywhere at will .... that car resembling a bright cloud in the sky."

".. and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent car at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere."

In the Mahabharatra, an ancient Indian poem of enormous length, we learn that an individual named Asura Maya had a Vimana measuring twelve cubits in circumference, with four strong wheels. The poem is a veritable gold mine of information relating to conflicts between gods who settled their differences apparently using weapons as lethal as the ones we are capable of deploying. Apart from 'blazing missiles', the poem records the use of other deadly weapons. 'Indra's Dart' operated via a circular 'reflector'. When switched on, it produced a 'shaft of light' which, when focused on any target, immediately 'consumed it with its power'. In one particular exchange, the hero, Krishna, is pursuing his enemy, Salva, in the sky, when Salva's Vimana, the Saubha is made invisible in some way. Undeterred, Krishna immediately fires off a special weapon: 'I quickly laid on an arrow, which killed by seeking out sound'. Many other terrible weapons are described, quite matter of factly, in the Mahabharata, but the most fearsome of all is the one used against the Vrishis. The narrative records:

"Gurkha flying in his swift and powerful Vimana hurled against the three cities of the Vrishis and Andhakas a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousands suns, rose in all its splendour. It was the unknown weapon, the Iron Thunderbolt, a gigantic messaenger of death which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and Andhakas."

It is important to note, that these kinds of records are not isolated. They can be cross-correlated with similiar reports in other ancient civilizations. The after-affects of this Iron Thunderbolt have an ominously recognizable ring. Apparently, those killed by it were so burnt that their corpses were unidentifiable. The survivors fared little etter, as it caused their hair and nails to fall out.

Perhaps the most disturbing and challenging, information about these allegedly mythical Vimanas in the ancient records is that there are some matter-of-fact records, describing how to build one. In their way, the instructions are quite precise.

"Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mecrcury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."

The Hakatha (Laws of the Babylonians) states quite unambiguously: "The privilege of operating a flying machine is great. The knowledge of flight is among the most ancient of our inheritances. A gift from 'those from upon high'. We received it from them as a means of saving many lives."

The reason i am posting this is i just bumped onto it and i found it quite interesting. Especially since i had been watching this documentary on the History Channel and some of the participants in NASA's space program were swearing to have seen objects that were 'unknowable.'

I am not saying Aliens exist ...but definitely UFOs exist (for example in the 1980s people who saw the B-2 spirit or the F-117 would correctly assert those crafts as genuine UFOs since they were in all respects UFOs to all apart from those who were privy to their existence).

However the above is quite interesting. There is no way to explain the hieroglyphics in that Egyptian temple, and as for the accounts in the Mahabarat and the Ramayana of what seems to be the use of homing missiles and nuclear weapons, as well as the references to various flying devices are rather strange!

And yes, some of this could be meteorites, or even ball lightning.

However in the History Channel program they showed several paintings done in the middle ages where in the background a UFO is clearly depicted. They even showed this account that in one of Alexander the Great's conquests a 'flying object' came from the skies, hovered over this city he was laying siege to, and then fired a projectile of some sort that totally obliterated one side of the wall allowing him to swarm in with his army and conquer the city.'

And then there is the thing that the former USSR and currently Russia have governmental organizations fielded only for the study and documentation of UFO events in that part of the world (they claim they had 'interesting' evidence some years ago).

And then there is this 'evidence' (?) that shows footage taken from a NASA shuttle where some type of 'beam weapon' is being fired out of Australia at several UFOs. The base in Australia turned out to be occupied by the USA when an investigation was carried out, and they were working on some type of particle weapon that used an ionized beam to direct immense voltage at a target. What could all this be (by the way some of that footage was intercepted by ground observers, and since then NASA has been scrambling all its signals).

Anyways i was just wondering what you people think about this.

As to what i think? Hmmm, let me see. Believing in Aliens is said to be the established tardemark for kooks and crankpots, so the most sagacious choice is to do this: I believe it was mass accumulations of swamp gas coupled with electrostatic charges from the aurora borealis. And as for the Egyptian hieroglyphics that is simply the work of some Egyptian artist then who was suffering from terrible athritis causing him to form crooked figures. And moving on to the NASA footage .....let me see. Yep, that is simply meteorites entering the atmosphere, and hitting high density air pockets causing them to change velocity and direction at rapidly changing cadence rates! And the 'beam weapon' is actually the reflection off the flight feathers of migrating birds suddenly diving in unison causing a swash of reflected light to arc up!

Yes. That is my story and i am sticking by it.

Now let me run off and get myself an upgraded tin-foil hat with lace trim and matching ear plugs to prevent my brains getting sucked off through my ears!

The Abydos temple helicopter

The first image is 'cleaned up' and the actual thing looks like this:

":..., I am afraid that you have been subjected to the famous "Abydos helicopter" mania, here. There is a simple explanation to what you are seeing, at least, as we see it in Egyptology. There is no mystery here; it's just a _palimpsest_ (though without the use of that term, and which is defined as "... A manuscript, typically of papyrus or parchment, that has been written on more than once, with the earlier writing incompletely erased and often legible" AHED). It was decided in antiquity to replace the five-fold royal titulary of Seti I with that of his son and successor, Ramesses II. In the photos, we clearly see "Who repulses the Nine Bows," which figures in some of the Two-Ladies names of Seti I, replaced by "Who protects Egypt and overthrows the foreign countries," a Two-Ladies name of Ramesses II. With some of the plaster that once covered Seti I's titulary now fallen away, certain of the superimposed signs do indeed look like a submarine, etc., but it's just a coincidence.
What is happening in the photographs is quite clear; just consult Juergen von Beckerath, Handbuch der aegyptischen Koenigsnamen, Muenchner aegyptologische Studien 20, pages 235 and 237.
This issue comes up from time to time on such academic e-mail lists as the Ancient Near East (ANE) List and so on, so we're all pretty familiar with it. Regards. Katherine Griffis-Greenberg" Member, American Research Center in Egypt International Association of Egyptologists University of Alabama at Birmingham Special Studies

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