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1 posted on 03/22/2024 6:02:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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Maybe some laws can be passed banning clouds and darkness over solar power farms and requiring the wind be constant at wind farms.

What are we paying these politicians for if they can't do this?

2 posted on 03/22/2024 6:03:41 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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3 posted on 03/22/2024 6:06:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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4 posted on 03/22/2024 6:09:05 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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The fact is that people tend to do what is in their best interests. Meaning, what is going to save them money.

My daughter and son in law(the accountant) put up a solar array on their property in NH about five years ago. They didn’t do it because they are Liberals. They did not do it to be “green” or any other virtue signaling BS. They did it because there was a 30% federal tax credit and a one time NH incentive.

Based on my son in law calculations it will pay itself off within the next four years. Assuming Eversource does not raise their rates again. They do not plan on moving from this house. Therefore, starting in four years their cost of electricity per year will dramatically decrease. It will never be FREE. They are hooked up to the grid. However, the NET METERING payback price/KHW is locked in according to NH State law.

FYI, they also run a business out of their home selling frozen raw dog food. They have a walk in freezer(which I helped assemble) that uses a fair amount of juice too. In addition, they have an RV, Jeep Wrangler and recently bought a used Corvette. Not exactly “Green” vehicles.


5 posted on 03/22/2024 6:28:27 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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About ten years ago someone calculated that only a 0.0005% increase in fuel efficiency would replace ALL of the wind and solar power existent at that time. The two still amount to not much more than a fart in a whirlwind minus their availability and reliability. Any fool should see from that measure alone this whole affair is a folly.


6 posted on 03/22/2024 6:34:06 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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"All this strengthens the view that peak oil and gas is unlikely for some time to come, let alone 2030," he said.

What's interesting is that he accepts the premise of peak oil. He just puts it a few decades further out than the climate alarmists. He says we should continue to invest in fossil fuels in the meantime, which makes sense, but what if peak oil really does happen in, say, the latter part of this century? If there's a serious energy choke point coming, we had better be getting a plan B together. IMO that plan B needs to be nuclear, because wind and solar aren't going to cut it.

7 posted on 03/22/2024 6:36:09 AM PDT by Yardstick
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The other thing that Peter Zeihan pointed out a few months ago was that some of these so called green energy options make more sense in some places than others.
Zeihan is a Liberal, but he is also pretty intelligent.
He lives up in the mountains of Colorado. Where he gets over 300 days/year of sunshine. Also, his house is up around 7000 ft. Solar panels work better in COLD temperatures below 50 degrees than they do at 100 degrees. Therefore, they work better in CO or NM than the desert of AZ.

So, Peter pointed out that solar panels make a lot more sense in places like the SW US than they do in Germany. Where it is overcast all the time. Same story around the Great Lakes. Where it is overcast/cloudy a large percentage of the year.

This is the same idea with wind mills. They make more sense on the central plains of the US than other areas.
I don’t want to debate the merits of wind turbines in general. We have beaten that subject to death here for years.

There are several smaller scale wind generation machines that have come out in the last ten years. The most recent one that shows promise is one based on the Archimedes Screw.
It is shaped just like an Archimedes Screw. These are meant to placed on the top of multi story buildings. Where winds tend to be higher velocity.
What makes these better than large scale wind turbines is that they can handle higher wind speeds. They also developed a smaller model made to put on the rooftop of a residential house.
Again, these things actually work in places that tend to be windy.


8 posted on 03/22/2024 6:47:45 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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10 posted on 03/22/2024 6:52:13 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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It is purely willful ignorance of leftists supported by the willful ignoring of the extremely limited capabilities of ‘green’ power sources by the media. The leftists say to themselves “I didn’t read that in the Times or the Post so it doesn’t exist and therefore you are wrong - la-la-la-la-la ...”

The stupid is strong on the political left.


11 posted on 03/22/2024 7:04:43 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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It will not be very long before we see natural gas back to the $9.00 a thousand cubic feet at the wellhead that we saw back in 1982. Just for reference the trading price is now less than $2.00. California was clamoring for gas and Oklahoma was happy to sell it to them for that price. It was wonderful and a lot of us here made a lot of money. This will be the effect of another biden policy gone pear shaped. Another disaster. Buckle your seat belts you are in for one hell of a ride. A lot of you, half, voted for this. I wish you would all rot in hell but without dragging the rest of us down with you.


12 posted on 03/22/2024 7:11:39 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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MC is the last sane person in NYC


17 posted on 03/22/2024 7:52:14 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim (C)
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