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House Members to Receive Classified UFO Briefing
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Posted on 01/05/2024 7:44:24 AM PST by RoosterRedux

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To: yeff

That’s a possibility of course. Remote because of the incredible complexity of the fight in question...but still a possibility.


61 posted on 01/05/2024 9:12:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: nitzy

“Why in world do you think they wouldn’t do the same thing to a UFO whistle blowers?”

You can’t get whistleblowers off your mind? The percentage of whistleblowers involved in the UFO events, as opposed to the millions of routine observers, is almost statistically nonexistent. I myself have seen things, have talked with airline pilots who have seen things, military personnel who have seen things, etc. If whistle blowers were all we had, it would be a non-event.


62 posted on 01/05/2024 9:13:30 AM PST by odawg
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To: RoosterRedux

Are there blurry photos and jumpy video? That’s the only proof I accept.


63 posted on 01/05/2024 9:15:18 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: RoosterRedux

Classified UFO Briefing

Dark money plan for who know what.


64 posted on 01/05/2024 9:20:08 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: yesthatjallen

I made a request to the aliens that they slow down their vehicles and get them nice and solid in our dimension so we can take nice clear photos and videos.

The aliens tend to be somewhat obstreperous—they are better at telling us what to do than listening to our orders.

;-)


65 posted on 01/05/2024 9:20:22 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: DouglasKC

Biggest waste of time. No surprise from the biggest waste of a year for any congress in history.


66 posted on 01/05/2024 9:25:21 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: cgbg
100% could be the case and, honestly, sometimes the only scenario that makes any sense.

But this here, aint that.

67 posted on 01/05/2024 9:37:52 AM PST by riri (What’re y’all talking bout? I just got a new set of Michelins for the house!)
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To: RoosterRedux; fwdude

I would offer the following observation, over the effort to halt disclosure and where this is going.

If you were a aerospace company that was ‘gifted’ the crashed ships back in 1940s, and cleared ownership of the ships, technology and control from 1970s on (which appears the case), then continued to have the Pentagon pay you several billion a year to reverse-engineer things....the one thing you wouldn’t want to admit after 70 years, is that you haven’t accomplished much of anything.

Your reputation as a Fortune-500 company is gone....billions came in and you never got anywhere in all those years. So they are protecting their reputation mostly here and really can’t admit that the program is a vast failure with nothing much to show.

If you wanted to shake this up...hire a audit crew to browse the Pentagon budget top to bottom. Black budget? Give the black budget guy sixty days to show accomplishment of function. If nothing...dump the budget line. It’s not our job/purpose to pay for zero reverse technology.


68 posted on 01/05/2024 9:44:59 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: RoosterRedux
You can't have it both ways. It can't be both a DOD psyop and something declared to be insane by the same DOD.

Actually, you can have it both ways.

Whatever the UFO phenomenon may be, it has been around for millennia. It would appear to be directed by non-humans and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

That sort of idea would naturally offend rulers of every age. They would not want their subject populations to know that the rulers are not on the top of the heap, and would go to great lengths to divert, distract, or discredit anyone who might think otherwise. They could of course, claim divine right to rule based on the instructions from the "sky gods", but that is a risky proposition, because the "sky gods" never seem to answer calls.

The safe bet is to ignore the whole thing as much as possible and discredit anyone who brings it to attention.

In the current age, we have pervasive observation technologies which make it impossible to discredit the numerous occurrences of UFOs. We also have a ruling class which is seen as increasingly incompetent, illegitimate, and malicious. Perhaps the rulers should be removed.

The rulers could very well be using the publicizing of UFO information as a short-term distraction from their immediate political problems.

So yes, the same DOD instructed to declare UFO observers as insane, can also be instructed to leak UFO information as a PSYOP to divert public attention from the prospect of removing the rulers.

69 posted on 01/05/2024 9:50:04 AM PST by flamberge (Look! A squirrel!)
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To: pepsionice
If you were a aerospace company that was ‘gifted’ the crashed ships back in 1940s...

I would go to see that movie!

70 posted on 01/05/2024 9:50:49 AM PST by yeff (Yuor biran has teh alibtiy to mkae oderr out of caohs)
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To: nitzy
Your logic problem needs to include the fact that the military (the "government" in your equation) is very compartmentalized. That's how it keeps secrets. If you don't have a need to be "read into" certain "black" projects, you aren't...and you are completely in the dark on such.

People in charge of hidden black projects don't want disclosure for a variety of reason, from national security to questions regarding their funding.

You also need to incorporate into your logic problem all the various sources that are encountering UFOs. Take the Navy for example. Carrier groups have been swarmed by UFOs off the east coast and west. Naval Air training areas off the east coast have at times had to be shut down because of UFOs flying in close proximity to aircraft. This has been reported to Congress in open hearings.

Naval pilots and seamen/officers cannot all be given the Seth Rich treatment, can they?

Bottom line, the issue is much more complex than is reflected by your simple logic problem.

71 posted on 01/05/2024 9:56:36 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: odawg

There is a difference between you or people you talked to who have seen things you don’t understand and people who are claiming some authority because they are in a position to know how the “experts” view these things. They aren’t asking you to go before Congressional committees. They are asking people who presumably have some special knowledge...aka “whistle blowers”.

I absolutely believe there are “unexplained” phenomena. I have a few guesses as to what they are.

These would be my guesses (in order of most to least likely)...

1.) Extremely disruptive/physics revolutionizing technology the government is developing.
2.) Military technology that uses the normal laws of physics combined with lots of misinformation from the government to keep it secret.

way, way, way far down in likelihood....

3.) Demons or supernatural entities
4.) Beings from another dimension/time
5.) Beings from another solar system

If it was option #1, that would allow them to hire scientist, engineers, specialists, etc... to work on the technology and have a reason why it couldn’t be released to the public.

Imagine if there existed technology to move or communicate faster than light. Or allow unlimited sources of energy.

Think how disruptive that would be to the richest companies on earth. It would completely rewrite the geographic/political/economic paradigms that exist today.

The powers-that-be would still want to develop and control the technology but they would need to be able to tell the scientists working on it why this life changing technology can’t be released to the public. If you listen to Bob Lasar or many of the other “whistle blowers” they all talk about compartmentalization and that any group doesn’t know the full story or what other groups are working on. They only see bits and pieces.

“We can’t release it yet because then the people would know about aliens and there would be mass hysteria. Now get back to work and keep developing it, please.”


72 posted on 01/05/2024 10:05:55 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: cgbg

I’m reminded of the crowd of people eagerly welcoming the aliens, in the movie, Independence Day. Some people want aliens to be real so bad, they lose all common sense.


73 posted on 01/05/2024 10:07:27 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: RoosterRedux

See 72. Perhaps we aren’t as far off from each other as you think.


74 posted on 01/05/2024 10:11:44 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: nitzy

Did you read the article? It is not being conducted by a whistle blower, but “...the briefing will be provided by Thomas Monheim, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community.” This man examined the evidence that the whistle blower could not provide in an open committe hearing and will comment on the part the whistle blower could not legally provide the committee in an open hearing.

Now, their are multitudes of people out there with first hand classified information, not just something they have pulled out of their asses because they don’t won’t to accept things that make them uncomfortable.

This meeting goes beyond information the whistle blower made public. And don’t hold your breath waiting for it to be made public. What has been observed here has been seen all over the world. These things are supposed to be much more aggressive in South American countries.

It would not surprise me at all that the government scientists have come up with anti-gravity devices, etc. They certainly have been trying. But the things that worry people have been documented long before modern scientists started their experiments.


75 posted on 01/05/2024 10:22:51 AM PST by odawg
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To: nitzy
Yes. I find that to be completely logical.

You might include that what is being seen is some kind of heretofore unknown natural phenomenon.

The problem describing what is being seen as a government technology under development is that UFOs have been seen/witnessed over the last 50-70 years and, if that were the case (that it is our tech), we would have seen weapons systems emerge that would, at a minimum, demonstrate some kind of extension of this amazing technology (and we haven't...yet).

76 posted on 01/05/2024 10:27:18 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: nitzy

My comment on your list fwiw:

“1.) Extremely disruptive/physics revolutionizing technology the government is developing.

Fact check: True

2.) Military technology that uses the normal laws of physics combined with lots of misinformation from the government to keep it secret.

Fact check: True

way, way, way far down in likelihood....

3.) Demons or supernatural entities

Fact check: It depends how you define those terms. In terms of common understanding, True
4.) Beings from another dimension/time

Fact check: True
5.) Beings from another solar system

Fact check: True

Imho it is all of the above....


77 posted on 01/05/2024 10:39:03 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: RoosterRedux

My counter to the weapons systems argument is that we (assuming we are the only one developing it) haven’t needed new weapons systems in the past 50-70 years.

We have done just fine fighting wars of convenience/politics/money laundering with conventional weapons.

If we had a country that fought wars for the betterment or protection of their people, you may have a point.

The fact that we have a country that fights wars to enrich the defense industry and fill campaign coffers means that it would be much preferable to lob million dollar missiles into the sand and expend tens of thousands of U.S. soldier lives than it would to reveal life changing and paradigm shifting technology to the world.


78 posted on 01/05/2024 10:51:33 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: cgbg

I suppose.

But it could also be :

Just 1 or just 2 or just 3 or just 4 or just 5

My best guess is just 1. They never quit researching physics bending technology after the Manhattan Project and these are secret results of that research. “Aliens” is the excuse they use to continue to keep it secret until it is time to reveal it.

2- These things seem too advanced to obey the normal laws of physics and I don’t see an overriding need to keep them secret for so long if they just follow the normal laws of physics.
3- I would think demons would reveal themselves in more places than just up in the air and far away.
4- If they are physical beings from the future or another dimension there would be more photographic/physical evidence with the ubiquity of high def video.
5- I believe in the “rare earth” theory and doubt that there is even advanced life outside of our solar system let alone galaxy traversing life. I think our solar system and our planet are unique in their ability to host life long enough for it to become advanced to the stage it is here.


79 posted on 01/05/2024 11:18:05 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: nitzy

I am just going to focus on the “in the air” issue.

Many UFO sightings are in the oceans—and the craft appear to be able to travel in space, in normal atmosphere and underwater.

In addition there is a deep (though admittedly controversial) literature on the subject of underground alien bases, underground alien civilizations etc.

Here is a link to an article by a .gov insider (Hal Puthoff) that explains a bit on this topic:

https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf


80 posted on 01/05/2024 11:22:32 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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