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Terrifying moment cruise ship is struck by 'rogue wave', sending people sliding around the floor
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 22 Dec 2023 | Arthur Parashar

Posted on 12/23/2023 5:10:19 AM PST by V_TWIN

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To: sit-rep
By "snuffing the nose" you mean that the bow of the ship dove into the waves?

And what is the foxtail? The main bridge area or the helicopter pad at the end?

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61 posted on 12/23/2023 4:39:56 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: texas booster

I think he means “foc’sle” or forecastle.


62 posted on 12/23/2023 7:45:42 PM PST by Silentgypsy (In my defense, I was left unsupervised.)
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To: texas booster

Yes, the bow dive straight into the waves And the Foxial is another name for the top edge of the bow of the ship


63 posted on 12/23/2023 9:44:26 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: DugwayDuke

“...are evidence that the cruise line was not acting negligently.”

They only reduced the speed to get through the early part of the evening for the show and they did not do the late performance. After the show, they strongly invited everyone to call it a night by closing up everything and asking people to retire. And the midnight chow was cancelled. They had to make their first port on time, so they increased speed to make up for the lost time thus going even faster than normal into a rough sea area they knew about even before they left Seattle. And you call that responsibility when the only actions they took was to try to fool people into thinking it was never going to be a problem they already knew was going to happen? That’s called irresponsibility. In court jargon, it’s called malfeasance.

“... see if they think you have a case.”

I guess you didn’t read the site I gave you as one of the cases collected on was when a woman fell over a raise bulkhead exit and collected. I wasn’t injured but with one bruise on my head over my eye when I hit the head of the bed. And that falls under pain and suffering which refers to the physical discomfort and emotional distress that are compensable as noneconomic damages. It refers to the pain, discomfort, anguish, inconvenience, and emotional trauma that accompanies an injury. Tack that on to malfeasance and it could have been worth a good chunk of change. But I don’t live my life from simple cuts and bruises like many. And yes, I had a winable case if compared to the ones I displayed for you.

I have no idea who you are and who you are representing. But defending anyone that did the things they did on my trip concerning the legal presidence already sets and used since indicates to me that you are setting a standard you believe and are expecting me to cut it to shreds a piece at a time starting with you can’t moving on to okay try it. Wastes my time. I’m not going to go from A to Z. So long.

wy69


64 posted on 12/24/2023 9:19:14 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: V_TWIN

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabilizer_(ship)


Too much reliance on ship stabilizers to stop all acts of God.

Technology addresses some problems but not all and creates as many problems as they solve. Just like government.


65 posted on 12/24/2023 9:27:26 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: DugwayDuke

In your site:

“A common carrier owes the highest degree of care to its passengers. However, unlike typical strict liability cases, passengers must prove negligence or intent to harm in order to bring a claim against a carrier. This involves having evidence of the cruise line’s failure to exercise due care, resulting in injury.

They knew it was going to be rough enough to cause a change in the normal procedures of the cruise plans. They shut off the outside deck for fear of washing someone overboard, slowed the ship down to do their early show, shut things down after the show and cancelled midnight dining, invited everyone to their state room without warning them of the possibility of flying items off shelves and possibly throwing people out of bed which did happen, before they left Seattle. If they had offered the passengers the opportunity to cancel with a refund I’m sure many would have stayed if only becasue they had flight money into it they wouldn’t be able to recoup. But those that didn’t wish to continue weren’t being treated fairly and professionally ending with the injuries, some serious, from the decision of the cruise line to overlook or ignore the damages that incurred by bearing the responsibility of the decision of safety taking it away from the passengers. I live just south of the port. I didn’t have anything but gas money in it. I would have cancelled if I knew there was a danger. I can take it again at almost no loss. I could have been injured a whole lot more, and it would have been because the cruise lines failed to be up front with me. They knowingly put me in danger.

wy69


66 posted on 12/24/2023 9:37:47 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: MayflowerMadam

We took that cruise a couple of years ago and we had calm seas so we didn’t have to walk (stagger) on the bulkhead.

Our cruise wasn’t bad but the Ruby, which we took, was aging and it was scheduled for dry dock and refurbish. And it was too small to be out in open ocean especially with waves you are describing. Sorry it was so rough. I don’t fault the ship for plugging ahead. But I do fault them for not offering the opportunity not to be put in that situation without warnings and lack of services cut because of the rough seas they had to know were out there just to get there. The missed their two financial responsibilities. They are supposed to entertain and not cancel events thus cutting the entertaining factor paid for. They threatened the safety of the pasengers as they can be like a ping pong ball in their state rooms also. I can attest to that.

Merry Christmas

wy69


67 posted on 12/24/2023 9:51:35 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: whitney69

whitney69 wrote: “I have no idea who you are and who you are representing. But defending anyone that did the things they did on my trip concerning the legal presidence already sets and used since indicates to me that you are setting a standard you believe and are expecting me to cut it to shreds a piece at a time starting with you can’t moving on to okay try it. Wastes my time. I’m not going to go from A to Z. So long.”

Not my intent to defend anyone or anything. My intent was to point out that you would have a most difficult case. You should understand that maritime law prevails here which is vastly different.


68 posted on 12/24/2023 10:01:54 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: whitney69

We were on Island Princess, my favorite ship.

I’m sure that cruise was an anomaly for that part of the Pacific. We’ve cruised often since then.

The worst part was the crew’s refusal to provide ANY information. That was unnecessary.


69 posted on 12/24/2023 10:04:47 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: DugwayDuke

“You should understand that maritime law prevails here which is vastly different.”

And this is why I don’t care to continue this discussion with you.

What I was quoting to you was international maritime law. Laws that all countries are committed to. And I stated that. End of discussion from me.

wy69


70 posted on 12/24/2023 11:08:55 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Ocean storms are very visual on radar and reports from ships at sea via radio. The cruise lines are aware of the storms and many times can go around them far enough so as not to distract from their schedule. But if they know it is going to be rough, they should have offered the passengers an out at the dock and in both our cases, didn’t.

I mentioned in another part of this thread that there would be many who would have cancelled if they found out it was going to be rough, like myself, living about a half hour from the dock. Those that had airfare committed might not and are willing to put up with the situation. Some like myself would have cancelled and/or rescheduled if they had told us. And not telling the truth is no different than lying and in the business world, that is called fraud since they were responsible for the safety of the passengers by international maritime law.

I hurt enough already. I don’t need any more pain. Especially unplanned and could have been alleviated.

wy69


71 posted on 12/24/2023 11:20:07 AM PST by whitney69 (yption tunnels)
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To: whitney69

Going on a cruise in a few months with 7000 of “my closest friends” :)

No way in the world I show that video to the wife!!

As for storms, that bad nor’easter that rolled up the coast a week or so ago wreaked havoc in the Florida cruise ports.

Captain of the Wonder of the Seas brought that ship back a day earlier so they wouldn’t get hit.

Many ships that could not do that were delayed back to port as much as 18 hours.

People that were on the Wonder were talking about how rough the ride back to port was and seemingly the captain wasn’t using the stabilers.

Not sure how they could know but I understand the stabilizers can only be used at slower speeds and really only help with side-to-side motion?

Personally, as a passenger, I would have preferred the move the captain made rather than ride out the worse seas in the storm.

I imagine those on the Wonder that didn’t miss their flight the next day were pretty happy with that decision as well!


72 posted on 12/24/2023 11:35:22 AM PST by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: Disambiguator
I think “rogue” is the most misspelled word I’ve ever seen.

"Lose" has to be close.

73 posted on 12/24/2023 11:45:08 AM PST by Stentor ( )
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To: Stentor

Possibly. It should be in braking news!

😆


74 posted on 12/24/2023 12:21:58 PM PST by Disambiguator
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The buffet food went all over the floor, it was a terrible cruise experience.

Selections from the 'rougewave' 'rougewaves' 'tsunami' and 'tsunamis' keywords, sorted:

75 posted on 12/25/2023 9:43:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Selections from the 'rougewave' 'rougewaves' 'tsunami' and 'tsunamis' keywords, sorted

I believe that should be 'RogueWave' and 'GiantTsalami.'

76 posted on 12/25/2023 9:51:44 AM PST by x (P.S. Vlad: Lily from ATT is never coming back to Uzbekistan.)
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To: x

Oh yeah, whoopsie, and LOL.


77 posted on 12/25/2023 10:37:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Just a 'tetch' of Thoroughly Modern Miscellany to round out the year. For a list of topics about this, check out post #75.

78 posted on 12/27/2023 9:35:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: vortigern

Rogue waves were believed to be just mariners’ wild imaginations and story telling until modern times and cameras showed them to be real occurrences................


79 posted on 12/27/2023 9:47:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: V_TWIN

My brother served on a Destroyer during his Navy career. Once in the North Atlantic it went through some rough seas. He videotaped the waves crashing onto the forward deck. We all got seasick watching it, LOL.


80 posted on 12/27/2023 9:51:09 AM PST by COBOL2Java ("Life without liberty is like a body without spirit." - Kahlil Gibran)
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