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Varius Avitus Bassianus | Born AD 204 at Emesa in Syria | Consul AD 218, 219, 220, 222 | Became emperor on 16 May AD 218 | Wife: (1) Julia Cornelia, (2) Julia Aquilia Severa, (3) Annia Faustina | Died in Rome, on 11 March AD 222.
Elagabalus
Elagabalus

1 posted on 11/26/2023 8:32:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Same rock the Muslims pray to today, I betcha.


2 posted on 11/26/2023 8:34:31 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Can a person survive sub-zero temperatures?

Yes they can, if they are dressed appropriately.

4 posted on 11/26/2023 8:42:07 AM PST by SamAdams76 (6,390,901 Truth | 86,874,940 Twitter)
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To: SunkenCiv

“..at the age of 14, Elagabalus was declared Emperor..”
With rare exception, 14 is exactly the age one should NOT decide to declare any male youth as Emperor.

Teenagers already feel indestructible, invincible and to possess greater knowledge than their elders (Old Foggies!).
Oh, and that is often when the hormones begin to quietly rage. I would have thought “Elag” would have been appointed
a guardian until he had reached an age of legal responsibility.


5 posted on 11/26/2023 8:49:44 AM PST by lee martell
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like a tranny...


6 posted on 11/26/2023 8:59:22 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SunkenCiv; SeekAndFind
Did you see the other article about Elagabalus four days ago? He was married SIX times by age 18 when he was assassinated.

British Museum Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel to Find Historical Transgender People

Posted on 11/22/2023, 5:20:25 PM by SeekAndFind

A museum in Britain has decided that a Roman Emperor was actually transgender and has decided to change his pronouns in their displays.

I’m not sure this was the wisest move on their part, not only because the idea is rather silly, but because the emperor in question is widely regarded as one of the very worst that Rome ever had, and that is saying something.

🔴 Roman Emperor was trans, Hertfordshire museum declares

The ill-fated Elagabalus will now be referred to as 'she', although experts say a transgender category did not exist in ancient Rome ⬇ https://t.co/b1S8KFYTcP

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) November 20, 2023

The decision is a bit perplexing, until you realize that the move was sparked by Stonewall, a radical alphabet ideology group in Great Britain that regularly pushes the boundaries of reality beyond recognition.

The Emperor in question is Elagabalus, who ruled Rome from 218AD until his assassination, aged 18, in 222AD. He was installed by the corrupt Praetorian guard, which by that time was the real power behind the throne, and assassinated when he proved too bizarre a person to be useful to them.

7 posted on 11/26/2023 8:59:51 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: SunkenCiv

And with the assassination of Elegabulus’ appointed heir, Alexander Severus, Rome found itself in what historians call “the crisis of the 3rd century.”

More historical proof that sexual perversion is a sign of a corrupt society, which is guaranteed to experience decline and violence


8 posted on 11/26/2023 9:02:49 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SunkenCiv

This guy was so bad he was murdered by his own men. The body was then dragged through the streets of Dome where hateful crowds mutilated it until it was dumped into sewage .


9 posted on 11/26/2023 9:03:28 AM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cross-dressing in the age of togas....


10 posted on 11/26/2023 9:14:11 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: SunkenCiv
"One of the emperor's most notable eccentricities was his penchant for cross-dressing. He frequently wore women's clothing, makeup, and wigs, which was seen as highly scandalous and inappropriate for a Roman emperor."

It was likely highly scandalous and inappropriate for anyone.

11 posted on 11/26/2023 9:16:05 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: SunkenCiv

And he was relatively promptly assassinated for being so perverted as to sicken normal pervs.


15 posted on 11/26/2023 1:24:42 PM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Clinton is a pedophile and rapist.
obama is bathhouse barry.
Biden is a pedophile and committed incest.

Not much has changed over the centuries.


16 posted on 11/26/2023 1:44:12 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: SunkenCiv; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; boatbums; ...
And yet true Christians, having already seen civil rulers of varying immorality, were not wringing their hands as to who the next one will be to restore Rome to its former glory.

1. Caligula: 37 – 41 AD. He is called a bad emperor main because of reports that he killed at whim and financed himself with legalised looting... [His] horse, Incitatus, lived in a marble stable, and Caligula may have made him a consul. From AD 40 he started to present himself as a god, while his palace was described as a brothel.
2. Nero: 54 – 68 AD. As with all emperors, the horror stories may be the work of his enemies, but Nero has many to his name. He killed his mother so that he could remarry, by divorcing and then executing his first wife. His second wife he kicked to death. His third marriage was to a freed slave, whom he had castrated, calling him by his second wife’s name.
3. Commodus: 180 – 192 AD. The nicest thing said of Commodus was that he was not evil, but so stupid that he allowed wicked friends to take control of his reign. He wasn’t short of ego though. He portrayed himself as Hercules, the mythical Greek hero, in countless statues.
4. Caracalla: 198 – 217 AD. Ascending to power alongside his brother, Caracalla decided he couldn’t share and had his sibling rival killed, his followers slaughtered and his memory officially erased from history by the Senate...A theatrical satire of his excesses staged in Alexandria got under his skin. He took his army to the city and slaughtered the leading citizens before letting his troops off the leash for days of looting that left 20,000 dead.
5. Maximinus Thrax: 235 to 238 AD. Maximinus exhausted his empire with war....Because his predecessor had favoured Christians, Maximinus had all church leaders killed. When the senate backed a revolt against him, he sought to bring his constant war home to Rome. His enemies stood up to him and the siege was the final straw for his troops who killed him. - https://www.historyhit.com/worst-roman-emperors/

Meanwhile, just imagine all the books today's authors would write During Gordian III's reign ( 20 January 225 – c. February 244) in which "there were severe earthquakes, so severe that cities fell into the ground along with their inhabitants."[23] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_III

Later, after a succession of many emperors, most all of very brief reigns, under Diocletian (20 November 284 – 1 May 305) there was the severe The Diocletianic Persecution (303–312).

Christians had been subject to intermittent local discrimination in the empire, but emperors prior to Diocletian were reluctant to issue general laws against the religious group. In the 250s, under the reigns of Decius and Valerian, Roman subjects including Christians were compelled to sacrifice to Roman gods or face imprisonment and execution, but there is no evidence that these edicts were specifically intended to attack Christianity.[2] After Gallienus's accession in 260, these laws went into abeyance. Diocletian's assumption of power in 284 did not mark an immediate reversal of imperial inattention to Christianity, but it did herald a gradual shift in official attitudes toward religious minorities. In the first fifteen years of his rule, Diocletian purged the army of Christians, condemned Manicheans to death, and surrounded himself with public opponents of Christianity.
In the winter of 302, Galerius urged Diocletian to begin a general persecution of the Christians. Diocletian was wary and asked the oracle at Didyma for guidance. The oracle's reply was read as an endorsement of Galerius's position, and a general persecution was called on February 23, 303. Persecutory policies varied in intensity across the empire. Whereas Galerius and Diocletian were avid persecutors, Constantius was unenthusiastic. Later persecutory edicts, including the calls for universal sacrifice, were not applied in his domain. His son, Constantine, on taking the imperial office in 306, restored Christians to full legal equality and returned property that had been confiscated during the persecution. In Italy in 306, the usurper Maxentius ousted Maximian's successor Severus, promising full religious toleration. Galerius ended the persecution in the East in 311, but it was resumed in Egypt, Palestine, and Asia Minor by his successor, Maximinus. Constantine and Licinius, Severus's successor, signed the Edict of Milan in 313, which offered a more comprehensive acceptance of Christianity than Galerius's edict had provided. Licinius ousted Maximinus in 313, bringing an end to persecution in the East.
The persecution failed to check the rise of the Church. By 324, Constantine was sole ruler of the empire, and Christianity had become his favored religion. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocletianic_Persecution
Which answered prayer was also a test, which resulted in an already adulterated became increasingly Romanized. Including Further deformation of the church what was seen under Damasus 1 (366-384) who is reported to have begun his reign by employing a gang of thugs in seeking to secure his chair, which carried out a three-day massacre of his rivals supporters. Yet true to form, Rome made him a "saint."

Upon Pope Liberius's death September 24 A.D. 366, violent disorders broke out over the choice of a successor. A group who had remained consistently loyal to Liberius immediately elected his deacon Ursinus in the Julian basilica and had him consecrated Bishop, but the rival faction of Felix's adherence elected Damasus, who did not hesitate to consolidate his claim by hiring a gang of thugs, storming the Julian Basilica in carrying out a three-day massacre of the Ursinians.

On Sunday, October 1 his partisans seized the Lateran Basilica, and he was there consecrated. He then sought the help of the city prefect (the first occasion of a Pope in enlisting the civil power against his adversaries), and he promptly expelled Ursinus and his followers from Rome. Mob violence continued until October 26, when Damasus's men attacked the Liberian Basilica, where the Ursinians had sought refuge; the pagan historian Ammianus Marcellinus reports that they left 137 dead on the field. Damasus was now secure on his throne; but the bishops of Italy were shocked by the reports they received, and his moral authority was weakened for several years....

Damasus was indefatigable in promoting the Roman primacy, frequently referring to Rome as 'the apostolic see' and ruling that the test of a creed's orthodoxy was its endorsement by the Pope.... This [false claim to] succession gave him a unique [presumptuous claim to] judicial power to bind and loose, and the assurance of this infused all his rulings on church discipline. — Kelly, J. N. D. (1989). The Oxford Dictionary of Popes. USA: Oxford University Press. pp. 32,34

Another ancient narrative of events, the "Gesta" (dated to 368 A.D.), provides more detail.... (The First Pontiff: Pope Damasus I and the Expansion of the Roman Primacy , pp. 15,33-34)

17 posted on 11/26/2023 2:21:39 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: SunkenCiv

As it becomes clear that the most perverse, wicked emperor in Roman history (making Caligula look like Elmer Gantry) was a transexual, he must now be recast as a religious fanatic.


22 posted on 11/26/2023 3:43:38 PM PST by dangus
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To: SunkenCiv
From the beginning of his reign, Elagabalus was heavily influenced by his family, particularly his grandmother Julia Maesa and his mother Julia Soaemias. They played a significant role in his rise to power and continued to exert control over the emperor's decisions throughout his rule. This led to accusations that Elagabalus was merely a puppet, manipulated by his ambitious family members who sought to advance their own interests. Elagabalus Bidenus.................
30 posted on 11/27/2023 5:25:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is this the Roman guy the British history place decided was transgender?


32 posted on 11/27/2023 6:48:23 AM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe.

But ancient historians can’t always be trusted.

Or modern ones either.


41 posted on 11/27/2023 1:28:48 PM PST by x (Or the rumor mill.)
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