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The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model: Why It Might Work and Options to Counter It.
Rand Corporation ^ | January 1, 2016 | Christopher Paul and Miriam Matthews

Posted on 06/06/2022 2:06:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr

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Cut down from 16 pages to get the major points, a PDF is available at source for free.

This explains the key elements of contemporary Russian propaganda, based on its Soviet and Cold War origins.

No matter how bad the U.S. press is, the Russian press is always worse.

1 posted on 06/06/2022 2:06:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

How does this differ from what the USA is doing?


2 posted on 06/06/2022 2:09:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: Widget Jr

Good post. Thanks


3 posted on 06/06/2022 2:11:24 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: rrrod

#3. You’re welcome.


4 posted on 06/06/2022 2:12:40 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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This is complete nonsense please list concreate examples of Russian propaganda as it relates to Ukraine.


5 posted on 06/06/2022 2:17:57 PM PDT by bte
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To: Widget Jr
The Rand Corporation has made “Poking the Bear” a National Strategy of the USA since at least 2019…

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

Perhaps nuclear war is a good thing?
6 posted on 06/06/2022 2:20:05 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Widget Jr

Ukraine is winning the propaganda war. Not even close.


7 posted on 06/06/2022 2:24:39 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Says the Leftwing Rand Corp.


8 posted on 06/06/2022 2:27:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
#2. This is about Russian propaganda, not American.

Taking your question seriously, for the American propaganda look at what the news did to Trump, from Russia Collusion to January 6 and everything in between.

For now, this is how I think it works here. U.S. propaganda is controlled at the corporate and upper political levels using a "official narrative" (agreed lie) and runs with it for as long as they can. When running the narrative, we, the ordinary people, are not allowed to question or hold accountable those in power who create the narrative (remember November 4, 2020?).

Search on "who owns the news" or "media consolidation". From Media Consolidation: The Illusion of Choice , in 1983 50 companies owned 90% of the American news, in 2011 90% was owned by 6 companies. Before 2010, there was much more room in the mainstream news for disagreement, so one view could not dominate the press without getting challenged by other members of the press who had equal means to challenge a narrative.

When they can't they drop it stage by stage. The news is now admitting that Russia Collusion was a fraud, while still holding onto January 6 was Trump's coup. In a few years when they have something else to attack, then maybe they will walk back on January 6.

9 posted on 06/06/2022 2:29:25 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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“This is complete nonsense please list concreate examples of Russian propaganda as it relates to Ukraine.”

“Ukraine is full of Nazis!” Is a big one.
“Russia isn’t invading Ukraine.” Is another.
“Russia is not preparing to invade Ukraine.” completes the trifecta.

L


10 posted on 06/06/2022 2:31:57 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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#5. This was about the framework, more than specific examples, which if you read the article are there.

If you want examples look up what Lee Camp, Scott Ritter, Larry Johnson, Gonzalo Lira, Col. Douglas Macgregor, the Duran, or what any repeat guest on RT has to say.

11 posted on 06/06/2022 2:32:34 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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I would like to see an analysis of US propaganda, specifically propaganda used on American citizens.


12 posted on 06/06/2022 2:33:21 PM PDT by Bloodandgravy (Is it time yet?)
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To: Widget Jr; E. Pluribus Unum; rrrod; bte; Jan_Sobieski; McGruff; Gene Eric
You haven't been here very long, Widget, so you probably wouldn't know about The Delphi Technique [Rand Corporation]:

The Delphi Technique: Let’s Stop Being Manipulated!
http://vlrc.org/articles/110.html

The process used to “facilitate” the meeting is called the Delphi Technique. This Delphi Technique was developed by the RAND Corporation for the U.S. Department of Defense back in the 1950s. It was originally intended for use as a psychological weapon during the cold war.

Hilarious that the professional manipulators at RAND are decrying manipulation...

13 posted on 06/06/2022 2:33:44 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Bloodandgravy

see my post #13 for RAND Corporation irony.


14 posted on 06/06/2022 2:34:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Bloodandgravy

Read up on WWI and George Creel.


15 posted on 06/06/2022 2:35:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Widget Jr

sure sounds a lot like NYT,WaPo and CNN
sure sounds a lot like ABC,CBS,NBC
sure sounds a lot like AP,Rooters and DailyMail


16 posted on 06/06/2022 2:35:55 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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“Distinctive Features of the Contemporary Model for Russian Propaganda

1) High-volume and multichannel
2) Rapid, continuous, and repetitive
3) Lacks commitment to objective reality
4) Lacks commitment to consistency.

We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood”

Thank goodness we are free from such activities by Washington DC, beacon of honesty. /s


17 posted on 06/06/2022 2:38:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: bte
This is complete nonsense please list concreate examples of Russian propaganda as it relates to Ukraine.

"We believe that biological weapons components are being manufactured in Ukraine," Major General Kirillov was quoted as saying by TASS March 18.

https://voi.id/en/news/146856/klaim-miliki-bukti-dokumenter-bioeksperimen-yang-didanai-as-rusia-komponen-senjata-biologis-dibuat-di-ukraina

"It can be said with a high degree of probability that one of the objectives of the United States and their allies is the creation of bio-agents capable of selectively hitting various ethnic groups of the population," Igor Kirillov, the head of the Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops of the Russian Armed Forces, said on March 10, according to the Russian news agency Interfax.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-claim-ukraine-making-ethnic-specific-bioweapons-science-fiction-united-states-1687219

"Russia accuses Ukraine of trying to make nuclear weapons"

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-699355

"Russia accuses Ukraine of plot to ‘murder’ pro-Kremlin media figures"

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3175524/russia-accuses-ukraine-plot-murder-pro-kremlin-media

"Russian Media Accuse Ukraine of Using 'Black Magic' as Invasion Falters"

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-media-accuse-ukraine-using-black-magic-invasion-falters-1703510

18 posted on 06/06/2022 2:41:19 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: DesertRhino

The Daily Mail Firehose on FR...


19 posted on 06/06/2022 2:41:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Widget Jr

And let me guess, America needs a way to monitor and regulate what we see here in America so we are not lead astray?

Did I guess right?


20 posted on 06/06/2022 2:41:49 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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