Posted on 04/02/2022 8:15:28 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
So when are you going to stop talking nonsense about stuff you know nothing about?
I've been taking HCQ for over 40 years to treat malaria, long before this covid hysteria. Without HCQ, I'd be dead long ago.
Millions of people in Africa have been taking HCQ to treat malaria for over 60 years. Its efficacy is not in question.
You took HCQ successfully for malaria. I was commenting on its use as a therapy for COVID-19. It is useless against COVID. For you to fail to understand my meaning is beyond comprehension. Are you drinking?
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko: ‘We could have ended pandemic long ago’
“When Upstate New York physician Dr. Vladimir “Zev” Zelenko drew the attention of President Trump back in the spring of 2020 with a simple protocol of cheap, proven, widely available drugs for COVID-19 that included hydroxychloroquine, he had successfully treated more more than 350 patients, with only one needing hospitalization.”
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/dr-zelenko-we-could-have-ended-pandemic-long-ago/
The trouble with you far left crazies is, you need to keep the covid hysteria going in order to steal the elections again in November. So you go nuts at the talk of any cure and fight hard to talk it down. Well you will not be allowed to do that.
Wow, so much bias and so many lies are packed into that silly little article!
The fact a bill had to be passed should make any pharmacy or doctor that refused to fill a prescription or order a prescription criminally or civily responsible for any chronic illness or death as a result of failing to do so.
Like what for example?
Unproven? Hundreds of studies indicate otherwise vs a few fake studies funded by Pharma. Personally, I’ve been on HCQ for prevention for 2+ years, not a sniffle.
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Yup.
Companies like Pfizer cannot afford to let very inexpensive but effective drugs like HCQ and Ivermectin be successful because that will cut off the massive illegitimate profits they are making from their overpriced, fake covid “vaccines” that simply don't work.
I familiar with Dr Ahmed Elgazzar’s Egyptian study at Benha University, on the efficacy and safety of the parasitic drug ivermectin in treating Covid-19. It was published on the Research Square website but was pulled when Jack Lawrence, a medical student in London, was among the first to uncover serious concerns about the integrity of the study. It was found to be plagiarized from various sources and had false data. It gave me concern that in the frenzy to find an easy therapy for COVID, clinical studies would also falsify their results.
I give you this article that tells of the Dr Ahmed study:
Ivermectin study results show it to be ineffective:
I give you this summary that gives more confirmation of my thinking that ivermectin is just another snake oil remedy to capitalize on a inexpensive product:
The dubious rise of ivermectin as a Covid-19 treatment, explained:
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22663127/ivermectin-covid-treatments-vaccines-evidence
Finally, this is one commentary about the dosage showing the ignorance of those who are trying to self-medicate after getting their pills from people like Frontline Doctors:
“The human prescription is a tablet that is swallowed. Ivermectin is labeled for a single-use dosage in both humans and animals. Whether treating a person for river blindness or a horse for worms, it’s intended to be given once and not multiple times. It stays active in the body for a length of time. If someone takes ivermectin day after day or week after week, as one might with an anti-viral or antibiotic, the dosage builds up in the body to toxic levels. Even with the human form, if someone takes one dose for 10 days in a row, they end up with 10 times the recommended dose, which can certainly cause toxic effects and overdosing.”
From:
https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/737643427
I too was a fan of Dr Zelenko. The clinical trials of HCQ, however, found it to be worthless. This one titled, “Do Zinc Supplements Enhance the Clinical Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine?: a Randomized, Multicenter Trial” makes that point. Here is the link to the PubMed Central journal report:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7695238/
Your conclusions are at odds with an evaluation in November of 2011 of the research collected at ivmmeta. Will post more detail later today,
2011 -> 2021
Here we go:
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted?s=r
LONG post, but the author digs into many of the studies at that time (November 2021). Interesting writing style.
His conclusions:
* Ivermectin doesn’t reduce mortality in COVID a significant amount (let’s say d > 0.3) in the absence of comorbid parasites: 85-90% confidence
* Parasitic worms are a significant confounder in some ivermectin studies, such that they made them get a positive result even when honest and methodologically sound: 50% confidence
* Fraud and data processing errors are of similar magnitude to p-hacking and methodological problems in explaining bad studies (95% confidence interval for fraud: between >1% and 5% as important as methodological problems; 95% confidence interval for data processing errors: between 5% and 100% as important)
* Probably “Trust Science” is not the right way to reach proponents of pseudoscientific medicine: ???% confidence
Countered by even more very credible clinical trials from non political doctors with integrity plus actual patients which found HCQ to be very effective.
"Outcomes of 3,737 COVID-19 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin and other regimens in Marseille, France: A retrospective analysis
Jean-Christophe Lagier, Matthieu Million, [...], and IHU COVID-19 Task force
Conclusion
Although this is a retrospective analysis, results suggest that early diagnosis, early isolation and early treatment of COVID-19 patients, with at least 3 days of HCQ-AZ lead to a significantly better clinical outcome and a faster viral load reduction than other treatments."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7315163/
Why do you keep pushing your agenda driven far left covid disinformation and lies?
You are scared about getting clobbered in November's election's and looking to steal the elections again through massive covid disinformation, lies and lockdowns?
Not going to work.
the wisdom of the Founders again demonstrated
it would be but won’t be
Duh.
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