Posted on 03/04/2022 12:08:27 PM PST by chuckles
No antifa were homegrown sent to the hinterlands by the best leftists our universities could crank out
My FRiend, I agree with you 100%. Europe needs to bleed for Europe. I am way past sending our soldiers to bleed and die over every squabble around the world. Europe needs to deal with this.
No one can seem to explain how this is not a Europe problem. I could make a case for Afghanistan (easy) or even Iraq, but Ukraine not so much. I appreciate OP’s passion, but I don’t share it.
Agree, but I was trying to get chuckles to figure this out.
Dispensationalism - A Friendly Critique
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Been down this road a hundred times with folks.
You either believe Scripture and the words of Ezekiel, Isaiah, John, Mark, Paul and Matthew or you invent your own interpretation as many have always done.
Whatever works for you is your choice.
Likewise.
When the Weathermen were bombing police stations, they were planning on dividing up America with Viet nam, China, Soviet Union, and Cuba. The people that didn't agree would be placed in re-education camps if you couldn't be re educated you would be put against a wall. Explain to me the difference in BLM and Russia? A commie is a commie.
Actually, it is a critically important difference.
Explain to me the difference in BLM and Russia?
Perhaps the best way I can explain that, is to point out that the people that correspond with (and agree with) BLM in Russia, are in prison or are otherwise well restricted by authorities.
How about a t-shirt with Che Guevara on the front?
When the Weathermen were bombing police stations, they were planning on dividing up America with Vietnam, China, Soviet Union, and Cuba.
I fully agree that Marxists, Communists, Extreme Socialists, and those you list, are the Epitome of wrong to the point of absolute Evil.
I have difficulty not going off on Useful Idiots wearing Che shirts.
I know everything I need to know when a college trained useful idiot marches down an American street with a red flag showing a hammer and sickle on it.
Yes, but only about THAT college trained useful idiot, it doesn't tell you a single thing about a contemporary Russian living in Russia.
A commie is a commie.
Again Yes, but most Russians are about as far from being Commies as are Americans who voted for President Trump.
Finally, Thank You Sir, for an honest conversation, and your unflagging Anti Communist and Pro American Support.
“Perhaps the best way I can explain that, is to point out that the people that correspond with (and agree with) BLM in Russia, are in prison or are otherwise well restricted by authorities.”
Just because Putin might have jailed those guys or their equivalents doesn’t mean he is different from BLM, especially not when Counting Stars, a right-wing magazine helmed in Spain, gave sufficient evidence that Putin if anything is financially backing said groups outside Russia. All that proves is that Putin’s pragmatic enough to realize going full Marxist like Lenin won’t do good for his power. Remember, even Stalin persecuted gays and made abortion illegal in Russia, and he otherwise was still a full blown Communist, even going as far as to directly fund gays outside Russia specifically to make it ripe for Communist revolutions.
I will also point out as well that Putin has repeatedly made clear that he still adheres to Communist views, including indicating that the greatest geopolitical disaster occurred in 1991, NOT 1917. In fact, here’s a video of him at the World Youth Conference, a COMMUNIST event, acting as the main speaker (if he truly weren’t communist, he’d if anything shut down the event and make sure everyone there was jailed):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzkLe-hOvgU
To be fair, the Turkey silos were also made obsolete as justification for their removal as well (in fact, if anything, we had even MORE legroom afterwards for striking against the USSR via IRBMs and even ICBMs via those nuclear powered subs, so the Soviets still in a sense lost).
Obsolescence was the public justification, If I remember this right the Jupiter’s were liquid fueled. Solid fueled missiles plus SLBM’s were coming online. However, from a technical viewpoint the Jupiter’s were still superior to what the Russians were deploying in Cuba. So, in the trade the Russians got a slightly better deal. To keep the Camelot\Kennedy mystique going the press painted something different and the public swallowed it.
I’m 72 and grew up under much the same circumstances as you. But I’m not about to support a nuclear war with Russia over Ukraine. Ukraine should permanently revoke its request to join NATO, period, and Europe should defend itself against the Bear. As a minimum, Zelensky should be at the UN pestering and badgering it to solve his problems with a coalition instead of trying to pull the US via NATO into it.
No-fly zones, countless shipments of arms and requests for foreign fighters, demands for sanctions and shutoffs of anything and everything connected with Russia over Ukraine. Correct me, but where was Ukraine this last 5 years doing anything to help the US with our Southern Border invasion?
OK, lets assume that Counting Stars is correct, that Putin funds BLM and Homosexual Agitators in the United States, and let's assume they gain more power over the Legacy US Government.
Who are the Homo/BLM Masters of America gonna go after first? White Hetero Americans, or White Hetero Russians? Trump or Putin?
Would that cause enough strife in America to trigger tyranny and a Civil War in America, and what would happen to America's ability to defend herself?
If anything, and if true, this only proves that Putin wants to win, not that he supports Negro or Homosexual superiority.
Just as an FYI, Stalin did MUCH of the same tactics as well. Heck, despite persecuting gays in his own country, he and his ComIntern had absolutely NO qualms funding Harry Hay and his branch of the revolution. And last I checked, Stalin was very much FOR Communism first and foremost.
Want my take? If he truly were against Communism, if he truly were against the woke elements, he’d not support them at all, neither in Russia, nor, more importantly, outside Russia. If anything, he’d fund the guys who want to destroy the homosexual groups and BLM groups both inside and outside Russia.
Besides, last I checked, the Chinese also were cracking down on BLM/Homosexuals as well, and they’re still blatantly Communist.
Even the author of the Politically Incorrect Guide to the 1960s, Jonathan Leaf, made it very clear that ultimately, even without the CMC, removing the Turkey missiles would have inevitably happened since they were obsolete due to nuclear subs. And if you read that book, you’d realize he’s no JFK fan and generally paints JFK in a very bad light overall.
Yeah, I know they would have been removed eventually.
My point was JFK’s “victory” at the Cuban Missile Crisis was not quite the “victory” it was painted to be.
Maybe not, but it certainly helped inspire Khrushchev’s ouster, implying that the various Red Army apparatchiks viewed the CMC as a loss for the USSR (heck, if Pacepa and his boss at the time are to be believed, Khrushchev was actually furious regarding how the CMC turned out). It was at most a draw, with both sides losing in one way or another.
I don’t know if you noticed but i actually agreed with you regard nuclear subs (i.e., SLBMs) making the Jupiters obsolete.
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