Posted on 03/01/2022 10:11:09 AM PST by ransomnote
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 02/28/22 Vol.395, Q Day 1585, genetic homophobe wrote: Apologies if this has already been posted. Lifted from Sundance over at CTH. Interesting, US expat living in Ukraine.
*
The transcript below hi-lights information I'm seeing that shows Putin has already accomplished far more of his true agenda than the MSM wants us to know. He is not trying to destroy the nation or harm the populace, so evaluating his conduct thus far against the wrong objective will certainly make it look like he's failing.
The Ukraine fell in a coup orchestrated by Globalists, using the same tactics they hoped to employ again in the US at the 2nd Amendment protest in Richmond, Virginia. The Ukrainians had no Trump, so when defenseless Ukrainian protesters were gathered in a square, they were fired upon from surrounding buildings. It was a bloody massacre and the resulting mayhem blamed on the head of state, giving 'justification' for the coup.
Once the Ukraine was overthrown, the globalists worked to make it a militarized outpost from which they plan to project their power against Russia and constitutes a significant national security threat. Would the US welcome Chinese biowarfare labs and other militarized assets on the Mexican border? Wouldn't that be suspicious? If China told us it was a lab specifically committed to peaceful research, would anyone believe them? Putin is working to defang this threat by forcing out the globalists, killing the citizenry or destroying the country would serve no purpose. He's not losing.
After years of the MSM and other puppets trying to kill President Trump by framing him for treason (e.g., RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA), a crime punishable by death, my fellow Americans have suddenly decided that the MSM are telling the truth about Russia, and that there is legitimate reason for Globalist puppet masters to post biolabs on Putin's border. Nothing to see here, move along....
The writing in the MSM and CIA outposts like IMGUR is histrionic and at times silly, befitting a cartoon soundtrack. I'm surpised the propaganda framing the Globalist controlled Ukraine leadership as a heroic, altruistic champions of freedom, even as he uses untrained civilians as canon fodder and bleeding photo ops. If you're winning, you don't forcibly conscript untrained civilians to shed their blood for CNN.
I'm stunned that all those who lied about Trump for 5+ years are now soundly defended and supported by so many, even on FR, even after years of watching Biden and the CIA controlled MSM work so hard to kill us, and freedom around the world. It's bizarre to see people defending Biden and his fellow globalists support for Ukrainian oppression by ridiculing critics as paid propaganda.
Click to skip to the bottom of this long post.
https://i.imgur.com/f2CiFx9.png
What Russia Wants From Its Invasion of Ukraine—and Why Zelensky Is Evil - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo
Computer generated transcript may include phoenetic errors and missing punctuation.
TRANSCRIPT BEGINS:
so today is saturday uh february 26thand it's the third day of the invasionof ukraine by russianowpeople in the united states do not seemto understand what is going on in so faras russia is invasion is concernedbecause they keep saying that russia isfailingwhich is the weirdest comment russia isfailing because russia hasn't taken outtheinfrastructure ofof ukraine hasn't hit the uh electricalgrid hasn't uh destroyed the uhcell phone towers or or or the watersupply or something like thatit's just remarkable they keepsinsisting that the russians seem toadvance and then retreat whenever theymeet any resistanceand it's just a failure of imaginationon the part of so many americancommentators that they do not seem tounderstand what russia is really doingwith this invasion because you seethe american mode of waris to go to a countryand destroy everythingdestroy the electrical grid cell towersthe water supply system everything justdestroy the whole thingand thenroll inthat's not fighting a war that's justmopping up the total annihilationof a countryand the united states has done thisrepeatedly in afghanistan in iraq inlibya in syria or they semi tried to doit in syria i mean it's really kind oflike a despicable way of of making warright but what are the russians doingwell see the russians they don't want todestroy ukraineno they don't want to destroy it at allwhat they want to do is they want tocapture itintactseeand they don't want to hurt thecivilians why would theyfrom their point of viewif they harm civilians they just createenemiesand so they want to capture ukrainechange the political leadership ofukraine and install a politicalleadershipthat is sympathetic to russia's securityneeds and is going to be a long-termallybut they don't want to alienate theukrainian population because if theyalienate the ukrainian population wellthe ukrainian population will eventuallyoverthrow this puppet regime and therussians want to install a puppet regimelet's not pretend otherwisebut they want to install a puppet regimewhereby the ukrainian citizens are moreor less indifferent to itthey don't want to install a puppetregime after having made the lives ofukrainians so miserableso that's why they don't want to destroyukraine or harm the ukrainian populacethey want to captureukraine intactchange the political leadership and thenlet it go of course because they don'twant to manage ukraine they don't wantit to be a burden on themthey don't want that long termand so what are they doingthey arerapidly invading the whole country andand everybody concedes that they'removing very very quickly but they're nothitting anycivilian infrastructure they're onlyhitting military targetsand they are relentless in hitting themilitary targets but always with acertain degree of cautionand i'll explain why in just a momentbut they're hitting military targetsthey are avoiding civilian populationsand civilian infrastructureand when they go to a city or adestinationwhen they encounter any resistance fromthe ukrainian armyany serious resistance they stop andpull backbecause what are they doingthey are encirclingthat's their whole strategy and it'svery simple and if you look at a mapyou'd realize itwhat the russians are doing is thatwhenever they go to a major city likekiev like kharkov and soon enoughthey're going to be in yeah prowhen they get to those cities they go upto those citiesand they meet some resistance and thenthey pull backand they allow their forces to start tosurround it that's the strategy they'reemploying in kievthat's the strategy that they'reemploying in karkov they are encirclingthese citiesand once they've completely encircledthem what will they dothey'll waitthat's what they'll dosee if you surround a cityall you have to do is just wait aroundeventually it'll fall of courseand so the russians are systematicallysurrounding all of the major cities andwhenever they come across a smaller townor or village they just advance andcover it and capture it and move on andcontinue with their advance wheneverthey meet any kind of serious resistancethey stop pull backand then encircleone of the things that they want tocapture intact and people don't seem torealize this but it's very obvious ifyou think about itthey are trying to capture the ukrainianarmythat's not why there hasn't been anymajor battles with you know hundreds orthousands of casualtiesit's been light skirmishesfor all intents and purposes the russianarmy is tiptoeing intoukraine insofar as air power isconcernedthe russians in the first three hourswiped the ukrainian skies of everythingthe russians owned the ukrainian skiesany plane flying is russianbut insofar as their army is concernedthis isn't world war two this isn't aworld war two where the russian armieswereyou knowi mean just you know kissing cousins ofthe mongol hordes you know what i'msayingno this is the modern russian army thathas the goal of capturing intactukraine and the ukrainian armybecause the russians realize that oncethey have captured ukraineand changed the political leadershipthey will need an armyto protect and look afterthe ukrainian state and the ukrainianpeople and the ukrainian land they don'twant to destroy the ukrainian army theycould do that if they wanted to theywould have done that already they ownedthe skiesover ukrainetheir goal is to capture ukrainecapture the ukrainian army with aslittle casualties as possible to theukrainian armyand that's why whenever they come upagainst serious ukrainian resistancethey keep consistently pulling backand in the west this is interpreted asthe russians are weak which is so weirdit's like the russians are so weakthey're not advancing as fast i meanwell that is a separate issue that i'mgoing to get to in just a moment but therussians are so weak because they're notobliteratingthe ukrainian armybecause that's what the americans dothey obliterateanything that crosses their pathfriend or fro they don't really carebut the russians do carethat's why they're not obliterating theukrainian army when they coulda friend of mine alex christoforouand the duran and great showhe pointed out something that i'd neverconsidered which is very obvious hepointed out the fact that you see thecurrent ukrainian leadership in themilitary the generalsin ukrainethey went to military academieswith the generals of the russian armiestheir drinking buddies since when theywere back in like 18 year old 19 yearold plebesthey know each otherthey don't want to kill each other ofcourse noti meanyou've got some buddy when you weredrinking out when you were 18 right youwant to kill him no you could be onopposing sides of whatever contest butyou don't want to hurt him of course notuh you'll be pissed off at him maybe butyou don't want to kill himthe russian army doesn't want to destroythe ukrainian army they could have doneit alreadyin these three days of combatonce the russians owned the skies overukrainethey could have done whatever theywanted with the ukrainian army theycould have annihilated it just blown itto smithereens and blown away the entirepopulation of ukraine if they wanted tothey could cause a major majorhumanitarian crisis if they wanted toand they obviously don'thow do i know this because they haven'tdone it they have had the opportunityfor three days to do it and they haven'tdone iti'm doing this stupid videofrom a hotel room in downtown kiev andi'm gonna upload it to the internet doyou think i'd be able to do it if therussians were really serious aboutconquering ukrainethey want to capture it understand thatand understand that you in the westyou are being goaded into thinking thatputin and the russians are like evilantichristyou don't understand whythe russians are invadingand your political leadershipboris johnson joe biden all these peoplethey don't want you to understand ofcourse not they want you to justdemonize just to take the easy way outthey want you to imagine that this is amarvel comic book movieand that you know there are white hatsand black hats good guys and bad guysyee we gotta kill the bad guys becausewe're the good guys yeahit's so naivethe russians don't want to harm ukrainethey would have destroyed ukraine ifthey wanted tobut they don't they want to capture itin one piecenowyou can say thatrussia's motivations or this that theother it doesn't matter you have to lookat the practical reality that is takingplace nowwhat really bothers meand perhaps this isn't a wise thing forme to say while i'm still in ukraineunder the zielenski regimewhat really bothers me is that thezelinski regimehas no trouble causing a humanitariancrisis in fact they welcome ahumanitarian crisis they would love tosee dead ukrainiansand i know this for a fact and do youknow how i know this for a factbecause the zelensky government has beenhanding out ak-47s willy-nillyto the civilian populationas i understand it they've alreadyhanded out 10 000 ak-47s and munitionsto matchnow you see if you've never had any kindof military experienceyou with a weapon like that you canbecome extremely dangerous to all thepeople around you and to yourselfit takes training to operate a firearmyou have to know what you're doing it'sit's not a casual thingokay it's not like in the moviesit's very very dangerous and you canharm yourselfbefore you harm anybody else and theharm you can cause to othersis you knowit's incalculable and and you can't takeit backnow the zelinski regime is handing outthese weaponsteaching people how to use molotovcocktails how to make molotov cocktailsand use them themselves they want tofoment the people to fight the waragainst the russiansand the thing is see the russians haveprofessional soldiers now theseprofessional soldiers you know theycarry a weapon they know what to do withthe weapon if they see somebody armed beit a man in a uniform or just a civilianwith an ak-47 well they're gonna shoothim okayand so that civilian will be deadand that will present a great photo opnow won't itso that zelenskycan wrangle some european country or theamericans or whomevertocome in and get involved in this warand potentially escalate the situationto levels that are unimaginablethe zelensky regime is doing somethingfrankly evil because it is evilto put civilians to encourage civiliansto do something that incrediblydangerous and irresponsiblethe zolensky regime has also putheavy weaponryin civilian population centersnowthese heavy weapons howitzers andwhatnotthey're dangerousand so the russian armyhas every right and obligation todestroy such heavy weapons but of coursewhen trying to destroy such weapons it'sinevitable that you're not going toquite hit the weapons when you try toaim for them you're going to hit aroundthe weaponsand therefore if these weapons are inthe middleof apartment complexesyou're going to have russiansshelling apartment complexes killinginnocent civiliansthe zelensky regime is putting theseweapons in the middleof populated areas precisely becausethey wantto have this happenand i'll tell you something else thatthe zelinski regime is doing they areforcibly conscripting men between theages of 18 and 60.they are not allowing them to leave thecountry and if they try to leave thecountry they are arrested and forciblyconscripted that is forcibly put intothe ukrainian armynowwhat has happened because of this welljust about every man between the ages of18 and 60is running away from the citiesthat's why there are so many refugeesit's not that they're seriously thinkingthat the russians are going to shell anddestroy their apartments or their homesor whatnot they're afraid of gettingarrested and forcibly conscripted thewomenand the young children and old men arehaving to hide these men who are betweenthe ages of 18 and 60. and by the waythis isn't something that i heard peoplethat i know personallypeople that i do business with i knowthem i know them i've gone drinking withthem eating with them doing deals withthemthey've had to leave givefor fearof being forcibly pressedinto the ukrainian armymiddle-aged men farts like mewho are out of shape you know we're realgood at some business deal but crappy atuh carrying a backpack and a weapon withno experience whatsoever in suchactivityand the ukrainian government thezielinski regime is doing thisand why do you think they're doing itwell first of all you don't forciblyconscript men into your army if youthink that you're winning now do youof course notnumber one and number twoby having this forcible conscriptionyou scare all the men and you createall on your owna whole class of refugees of peoplefleeing the citiesthey're not afraid of the russiansthey're afraid of the ukrainian regimethat is trying to press them intoservice that's what's going onand so you see all the video images ofpeople fleeing the city and you and thewest you and the united states andwestern europe think oh they're afraidof the russians no they're afraid of thezielinski regimebut i have to say thatthe issue ofhanding out weaponsto civilians who don't know how tohandle them and that is the thing i findmost despicablebecause they are willing to have thesepoor civilians who know nothing ofweaponrybecomemartyrsbecause the russian soldiers who seesome civilian with a gun well what doyou think he's going to dohe's going to shoot himand that innocent civilian who doesn'teven know how to hold the damn weapon isgoing to die needlessly for nothing forabsolutely nothingand i find that despicable i find thattruly evilalso the zielinski regime can get a nicephoto opthat's what's going onand if you want to say that the messagei'm saying is pro-russian or pro-putinor i'm a putin stooge or useful idiot orwhatever fine i don't care i mean idon't really care your opinion man idon't give a [ __ ] what you think aboutmei'm telling you the truthi'm here i'm here in kievin the downtown waiting for the russiansto invade the damn place huh so i knowwhat i'm talking aboutnone of this stuff is appearing in themainstream media now is it huh becausei'm not following the american oreuropean mainstream media because i knowit's just a pack of lies but probablywhat i'm saying in this videoyou haven't heard it well now you'rehearing itand think a little bit huh i mean inthis channel what have i always told youstupid [ __ ] huh think foryourselfthink look at the information that youhave availableand ask yourself why something ishappening the way it's happeningit's not arbitrary it's not by chancepeople have thought through what theyare doing the russians have certainlythought through what they're doingthe best that we can hope for is thatthe zelensky regime fails in its attemptto wrangle in the europeans and theamericans into this warand the zelensky regime collapses orflees or whateverand russia is able to take ukraine inone piece without harming too manypeopleand that's the best that we can hope foror if not the whole country will bedestroyedmillions of people will be displacedhundreds of thousands perhaps evenmillions killedand this is the exact same thing thathappened in iraqlet's hope that we don't have a secondiraqClick to skip to the top of this long post.
PING
Is there any far left cause you won’t embrace?
This is just wretched Russian propaganda.
If the "globalists" wanted this, they could have just pushed for Ukraine to join NATO immediately.
You also skip over the fact that Poroshenko was President before Zelenskyy, so you can't even get the facts straight.
The "biowarfare" lab nonsense is more Russian propaganda currently making the rounds that is obviously intended to mock US WMD claims about Syria and Iraq, just as the previous bull about a "gemocide of Russians" in the east was mockery of the reasons NATO gave for intervening in the former Yugoslavia.
Will the next installment be the Protocols of the Elders of Zion because the Russian bots have given up on calling the Jewish President a Nazi?
Pathetic.
Democratic government was overthrown. Havne’t you been paying attention?
So you and Biden agree on foreign policy, right? There was no coup? And you and the MSM are finally shoulder to shoulder on every overwritten piece of propaganda they throw.
Renfrew, you’ve been proven wrong extensively in grueling detail in your efforts to lure FReepers into harms way regarding the Covid ‘vaccine’ so I’m not surprised to see you here.
If Russia wanted to destroy or even decisively take over the Ukraine, it could. It’s not, and I think we need to ask why and why Biden/Obama handled this so badly.
You got ‘Nazi’ out of your ardent support for the MSM? Doesn’t it bother you that you are fervently supporting those working to destroy us? How do you justify Biden being a CCP controlled puppet? That’s your guy now?
Ah, you’ve found another cause to spread propaganda and misinformation about now that the previous one is dying out and you were losing your platform.
You are claiming someone else was proven wrong? You post things where literally the next article from the same source completely contradicts itself - the virus doesn't exist at all in one article, then another thread about the supposed best treatments for it (something that you claimed didn't exist before), completely fake, phony claims stating people vaccinated were being hospitalized and dying at a higher rate when the very data being cited showed completely the opposite - even after having this pointed out, you continued to post the same propaganda, posted a completely false story about Japan stopping all vaccines and switching over to ivermectin (never occurred) but were completely unapologetic about it, embarrassingly absurd stories about how the word "satin" was actually code for "Satan", etc.
Now you're an apologist for the Kremlin.
Stop this craziness and find something better to do with your time.
Don’t sell the Russians short, they’ll find a way to call Zelensky a NAZI and a member of a Jewish/Zionist conspiracy at the same time...
Now you’re an apologist for the Kremlin.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You didn’t or couldn’t answer the question, “Would the US be okay with a CCP controlled biolab on the Mexican border?”
People can read the transcript, so name-calling me a Kremlin apologist won’t prevent FReepers from looking at information for themselves, which is a tremendous wound in your information suppression efforts.
I am kind of grateful for a little Russian propaganda.
So far all I have seen is Ukrainian propaganda.
It doesn’t make much of a case for invading Ukraine, though.
Would you like to buy some paragraphs?
He’s trying to not break his streak of being wrong 100% of the time.
I would like to know more about the biolabs and their purpose + funding 🤪
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.