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Looking for data/evidence on what has caused some states to trend liberal.
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 3/16/2021 | dragnet2

Posted on 03/16/2021 1:13:54 PM PDT by dragnet2

Was it due to people moving in from other states?

Election fraud?

Or is it due to increasingly liberal public education in these states, churning out a never ending conga-line of young leftist voters each year for the past several decades?


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1 posted on 03/16/2021 1:13:54 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Election fraud? YES.


2 posted on 03/16/2021 1:14:48 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dragnet2

That’s easy. Since the Fall, the world has slanted Left. Someday that will all be fixed.


3 posted on 03/16/2021 1:15:29 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: dragnet2

I don’t think you’ll find definitive evidence one way or another, but you can look up statistics for specific states on things like states from which new home buyers reside, education level of new voters, graduation rates, voter registration information, etc. The data is out there, it’s up to the compiler to make the associations.

Hence the old yarn about “lies, damn lies, and statistics.”


4 posted on 03/16/2021 1:16:24 PM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: dragnet2

I think there was definitely fraud, especially in places like GA, MI, NV, and WI. In WI, lots of college students voted who probably also voted elsewhere. But I don’t think demographic shifts can or should be discounted.


5 posted on 03/16/2021 1:17:34 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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I’ve said for years that the single biggest factor is these changing political trends is URBANIZATION.


6 posted on 03/16/2021 1:19:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: dragnet2

Free shit.


7 posted on 03/16/2021 1:19:57 PM PDT by woodenickel
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To: dragnet2

All of the above.

And don’t forget the general distracted/disinterested nature of young Americans. The only ones interested are those taking up a cause and going with feelings over reason, because they want to feel good about themselves.


8 posted on 03/16/2021 1:20:54 PM PDT by brownsfan (Term limits! Without term limits, we are doomed.)
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To: dragnet2

Personal theory that the democrats encouraged immigration into Colorado (specifically Denver) for decades starting in the early 80s, finally revealing its significance in their plan in 2000 when Plouffe bragged very early in the election that if they captured Colorado, there was a 50% chance of winning the election.


9 posted on 03/16/2021 1:21:06 PM PDT by edwinland
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Housing costs. People who feel comfortable raising families do so, and vote Republican. People who don’t support abortion as a birth-control failsafe (even if they insist that’s not why they support abortion) and vote Democrat.


10 posted on 03/16/2021 1:21:19 PM PDT by dangus
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Combination of all three and unbridled immigration and refugees, coupled with family reunification, birthright citizenship.

Take a look at Gwinnett County Georgia. Mass immigration for Northern liberals for the jobs. Immigration from Asia, Mexico, Central & South America for a generation or two have turned a once blood RED county into one with a radical left DA and sheriff. Same is going on in Cobb County, Ga.


11 posted on 03/16/2021 1:21:48 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Jim W N

“That’s easy. Since the Fall, the world has slanted Left. Someday that will all be fixed.”

Someday is likely to be pretty far off. But yes, leftism can’t last, it’s fatally flawed. But the correction is ALWAYS bloody.


12 posted on 03/16/2021 1:22:05 PM PDT by brownsfan (Term limits! Without term limits, we are doomed.)
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In my state it started in the 60s...Vietnam and civil rights. Harvard,MIT,Boston University,Boston College and Northeastern University students didn't want to serve in the Armed Forces.

It was downhill from there.

13 posted on 03/16/2021 1:22:54 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Ruthlessness.

14 posted on 03/16/2021 1:23:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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The more colleges/universities, the more liberal.

The more immigrants, the more liberal.

Poverty and liberalism chase their tails together, so they’re a blur.


15 posted on 03/16/2021 1:23:15 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: dragnet2
Like Teddy Roosevelt said
"A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user."
People don't believe their vote makes a difference so they throw it away.
16 posted on 03/16/2021 1:23:36 PM PDT by ProudDeplorable (Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: rbg81
GA: Stacey Abrams, mail-in ballots plus Dominion
PA: Judges overruled state legislature, mail-in ballots plus Dominion
AZ: Sharpies, mail-in ballots plus Dominion
MI: 125% voter "turn out" in certain districts, mail-in ballots plus Dominion
WI: Ditto
Other states: Mail-in ballots plus Dominion


Did I miss something?

17 posted on 03/16/2021 1:24:00 PM PDT by salmon76 (They call me Big Boomer McKraken. I live at the corner of Breaking Street and Bombshell Avenue.)
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To: dragnet2

Hijacking threads causes it. Period. 😎


18 posted on 03/16/2021 1:24:40 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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In California the drift to the left tracked the mass immigration that changed the state’s demographics. FAIR, the Center for Immigration Studies, VDare all wrote about this as the leaders of The Stupid Party, aka the ‘GOP’, cheered on the process that guaranteed its destruction.


19 posted on 03/16/2021 1:26:25 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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I believe it is greatly impacted at a local level by:

Media slant

Public Schools

Social pressure to appear to be “woke” or tolerant, or inclusive, etc.


20 posted on 03/16/2021 1:27:20 PM PDT by NEMDF
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