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America is probably lost
vanity | 01-08-2021 | Chuckles

Posted on 01/08/2021 12:22:13 PM PST by chuckles

I just wanted to try to bring people back from the shiny object for a moment before we loose everything. We need a clear look at what the enemy is doing or they will lead us around by the nose until we end up in Concentration camps or worse.

First, I would like people to do some homework. Read the Constitution. You probably haven't read it in awhile and it's short. If you haven't read it in a couple of years, maybe a refresher is in order. Second read or watch "1984" to understand "Newspeak" and Central government better. Third, read or watch "Animal Farm". These were required reading back in my day. (69 yo)

The Constitution tell us explicitly how elections shall be done.

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress:"

The key words here is of course the state Legislators direct the election and appointing of the electors. I wanted to boil this argument down and try to stay out of the weeds to show the problem we are in now. The way America is supposed to work is we make good and just laws by arguing things out and choosing wisely what we enact. That takes the emotion out of the process. Going down all these rabbit trails of hidden votes, illegals voting, double votes, just makes things more confused because the rules were already supposed to be written by the Legislature.

Trump contained this Article 2 Section one principle in most of his lawsuits against the states, but confused it with allegations of voter fraud of every type. Voter fraud happens BECAUSE the Constitution wasn't followed. The Constitution Stops voter fraud if it's followed. The second problem came when the courts kept killing the Lawsuits and not hearing them. They clearly knew the Constitution was violated but chose NOT to do anything about it. How ridiculous was it to say Trump had no standing!

Every official that is connected to the government takes an oath to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. That means the last defense for the rule of Law, the court system, especially the Supreme Court, failed. If the line of government offices that are there to protect the Constitution fail, and it appears to be on purpose, how will we ever get our Constitutional Republic back. If a majority of the Congress and Senate and the SCOTUS all just make it up as we go along, we are in deep, deep trouble.

If this is allowed to stand, they will tell us we can't go to church anymore,...Oh, excuse me that's already done. Maybe we won't be allowed to speak our mind, Oh Yeah, that's been gone since "hate Speech" was invented. How about the Second Amendment? That's in the pipe right now. How about "Search and Siezure",...already gone.

People, we are in deep trouble and I wanted to make it clear that this election is not the beginning of Lawlessness. It has been in the works for a long time. I'm willing to state that I saw it happening back in the 1960's. By allowing courts and state officials that are NOT in the state legislatures to change the rules, how do we put the toothpaste back in the tube? The reason America has lasted for 250 years is we all felt like the Constitution was the ultimate rule book everyone must follow. Any elected official that we might feel like was a good fellow, has now been neutered and is now just taking up space.

I hate to be a downer, but they will be coming after us now if we just rear a red hat. This is full on Fascism now in my view. Is someone going to take this breech of Law to the SCOTUS to straightened it out? I doubt it now.


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To: blueunicorn6; All

Watch Lindsay Graham run away. Language alert

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41 posted on 01/08/2021 12:49:37 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: chuckles
I am sure most of us know all this and that probably there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. America as we knew it is gone.

Unfortunately most of the country has gone full Eloi and will just roll over.

Hopefully once the painful reality hits enough people will snap out of their stupor and fight back.

42 posted on 01/08/2021 12:51:16 PM PST by truthkeeper (All Trump Has Going for Him is the Votes)
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To: cowboyusa

Sorry, you got me on the first sentence.... Newsflash, we are in prison camps already! Our overseers tell us how many people you can dine with, who can come to your house, Celebrating the holidays with your extended family is prohibited, if you have a birthday only birthday parades are allowed, can’t buy food without your (yellow star ⭐️ ) mandatory mask church is prohibited along with singing ...etc...feels like a controlled government prison to me! WE are living it already!


43 posted on 01/08/2021 12:51:31 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: MountainWalker

You can’t surrender every pillar of society to the left and let them pack the electorate with third worlders and keep your country.

We have allowed the left to limit the language to the
socialist lexicon.
You cannot argue against socialism if you are constrained
to the words they insist you use, it’s impossible and
they know it.


44 posted on 01/08/2021 12:51:34 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

But God is still on the thrown - he still rules. I can go outside and see his wonder at work any day. And in a few weeks, I can begin to plant my garden, and see him at work up close


45 posted on 01/08/2021 12:54:35 PM PST by 11th_VA (Et Tu Fox News ?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Prepare. They’re coming. Give it to them pointy end first.”

Good observation, and sound advice.


46 posted on 01/08/2021 12:55:14 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: joshua c

“I will die fighting. My dying wish is that my gun is empty when I fall.”

There are millions of Americans who will stand with you. Maybe not at first, but when reality finally sets in...yeah.


47 posted on 01/08/2021 12:58:03 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: chuckles

Just in case some haven’t considered what might have happened if Trump HAD managed to stay in office - the Democrats were almost sure to cheat and win the two Georgia Senate seats regardless. The fix was in, we saw it in November and in the actions of Kemp and Raffenberger - the fix was in.

And with control of the House AND Senate, President Trump would have been impeached within months. And then Pence would have been too. They would have done it because they COULD Have done it, and that was their Plan B.

Having seen the depths to which they will sink in order to win, this scenario is beyond doubt. It is better for the country for Trump to exit under protest but with a peaceful transition of power and to start what comes next without having been impeached and removed from office.


48 posted on 01/08/2021 12:59:22 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan. )
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To: Old Yeller

Correct.


49 posted on 01/08/2021 1:01:23 PM PST by scott says (Servant of the Living God--YHVH)
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To: laplata

And that is what must be done to all domestic enemies that currently reside in Congress, courtrooms, legislative houses, newsroom, faculty lounges, big tech headquarters, etc,


50 posted on 01/08/2021 1:01:54 PM PST by MarDav
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To: joshua c

“Take a big dump on big tech/media

Dump them all”
Dump them all? I would prefer to see “ protesters” , peaceful of course, assembling at every media group members house front lawn...maybe like BLM protesters did in the middle of the night? Names, employees, ages, addresses, phone numbers, Licence plates, pictures....I imagine some one could compile an accurate up to date list or detailed information on where they could be located in person to have a civilized, man to man, face to face discussion....the same goes for all our elected officials. Unanswered emails and telephone calls have not been to effective.


51 posted on 01/08/2021 1:02:49 PM PST by delta7
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To: mlo
None of them said Trump had no standing.

They did say that states had no standings to challenge the constitutionality of other states on their conduct of a national election. They also said citizens of said states had no standing to question the conduct of the election in their states.

If citizens have no standing and states have no standing then we are all just serfs.

52 posted on 01/08/2021 1:03:49 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“Obama weaponized our entire government HE did more damage to this country than ANY other POTUS!!!”

That is so true. Obama weaponized the government against any and all of his opponents, real and imagined.


53 posted on 01/08/2021 1:03:54 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

“I am trying to find a reason to think that fair elections are not a thing of the past. And with them goes rule of law, ect. Anyone got anything?”

Nope. I’m stumped.


54 posted on 01/08/2021 1:05:18 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: who knows what evil?

You don’t need a list of alternatives to poison.


55 posted on 01/08/2021 1:05:50 PM PST by webheart (Coronavirus, I give up. Come get me.)
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To: P.O.E.

That’s why Barry Sotero chose Kamala Harris as VP. She ruthlessly goes after enemies of the left, and following Gropey’s interregnum, she as president will unleash the full power of the FBI and DoJ on Trump’s supporters. Count on it, though persecutions will begin under Goody Joe for certain, after a very brief phoney kumbaya period.


56 posted on 01/08/2021 1:06:12 PM PST by attiladhun2
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To: MountainWalker

Dear Mountain Walker
You have a clear picture of our unfortunate situation.
Thanks. And i pray your trust is in Jesus Christ.


57 posted on 01/08/2021 1:07:34 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: BiglyCommentary
The GOP State Legislatures are the single biggest contributors of the fraud and stolen elections.

It is 100% their fault. Some of them (Arizona, Wisconsin) now realize what fools the Left made of them and are trying - belatedly - to correct the damage. Others are hopelessly lost.

58 posted on 01/08/2021 1:08:36 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: attiladhun2

Perhaps some of us will have to die. That 14 year Air Force vet should not have crawled through that window. How many of us would challenge our enemies to a duel? We’d find out just how brave the leftists are. Why that woman didn’t put in 20 is beyond me. She’d be on semi-easy street rather than dead.


59 posted on 01/08/2021 1:09:54 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: webheart
You don’t need a list of alternatives to poison.

It's apparent that some people do, even here at FR.

60 posted on 01/08/2021 1:13:53 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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