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The 'long-haulers': Why 'presumed recovered' doesn't mean you're done with the coronavirus
Times Picayune ^ | 10/17/2020 | Emily Woodruff

Posted on 10/17/2020 9:30:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Dr. Shaban Faruqui, strapped into a gurney, rolled down the hallway five months ago at Baton Rouge General Medical Center to cheers and applause from the hospital’s employees.

It was May 18, two months after he was hospitalized with the coronavirus. As the former chief of gastroenterology at the hospital, everyone had been rooting for him.

He had survived the worst of it and was going home. To a wife of 45 years, to three daughters and four grandchildren who had hung paintings of hearts and sunny skies on the walls of his Baton Rouge home to greet him.

When he arrived home in the ambulance, Faruqui’s fingers fluttered with urgency when he saw his wife. She grabbed his hand. A doctor herself, she would oversee his care as he recovered.

That day marked what the Faruqui family thought would be the end of a long struggle with the coronavirus.

It wasn't.

What they didn’t realize then, and what is becoming clear to some other coronavirus patients and their families, is that the fight for survival doesn’t end when a patient leaves the hospital.

On the Louisiana Department of Health website, a hopeful green number ticks up each week in the left corner of the state’s coronavirus dashboard. It represents the many “presumed recovered” people who survived their initial infection. There are 161,792 of them in Louisiana as of the most recent count.

The state considers someone recovered if they meet one of two criteria. Either it has been more than 14 days since they tested positive and they aren’t in a hospital or dead, or if they are still alive 21 days after a positive test.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; politicalmedicine
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FOR THOSE PRESUMED RECOVERED, BE CAREFUL WITH THESE:

While COVID-19 affects the respiratory system — shortness of breath, low blood oxygen, pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome in severe cases — mounting evidence shows it can impact a number of different organs, in some cases leaving behind undetectable damage or persistent problems that can turn severe weeks later.

Some of these people are known as “long-haulers” — otherwise healthy people who just can’t seem to get better. Others may be experiencing post-intensive care syndrome, a constellation of symptoms that can haunt survivors of critical illness.

“It is becoming very clear now, across the world, people who get infected with COVID can have protracted and nagging symptoms for weeks and even months afterwards,” said Dr. Joe Kanter, the interim assistant secretary of the Louisiana Office of Public Health. “Long after the infectious period has ended and, for people who were hospitalized, long after severe illness resolves.”

Most people recover from COVID-19 after a few days or weeks. But early studies suggest 10% have lasting symptoms. A study of 143 hospitalized patients in Italy found about half had fatigue and trouble breathing two months after leaving the hospital.

Young, healthy people can suffer for far longer than even a bad flu, a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study found. One in five adults between the ages of 18 and 34 said they didn’t feel back to normal two or three weeks after their diagnosis.

1 posted on 10/17/2020 9:30:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The politicalmedicine people need lined up against a wall...


2 posted on 10/17/2020 9:36:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks to COVID few people living now will live to be 90 years old. /sarc

This “pandemic” is going to be filed under the “madness of crowds” and as the greatest political and economic power grab in the whole history of man.


3 posted on 10/17/2020 9:40:21 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: kiryandil

Yes. In older people a serious disease often leaves after effects. Like the flu . Fear mongers gotta monger.


4 posted on 10/17/2020 9:41:48 PM PDT by binreadin
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To: SeekAndFind
It was May 18, two months after he was hospitalized with the coronavirus.

Well that should have been a red flag right there. He apparently didn't even try to get the cocktail recommended by President Trump. Wouldn't want President Trump to be able to proclaim a victory, now would we.

5 posted on 10/17/2020 9:47:25 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: SeekAndFind

HerrDoktor FauxiMengele funded the China virus.


6 posted on 10/17/2020 9:52:06 PM PDT by A strike (If you die we will report it as Covid unless you prove otherwise.)
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To: A strike

I’m still trying to figure out why President Trump kept Fauxi around for so long. Similar to Sessions. Especially since Trump was known, coming into the presidency, as the guy who said “You’re fired!” I love the guy, but sometimes I just don’t understand him.


7 posted on 10/17/2020 9:57:32 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: SeekAndFind

Have a friend that has it, over 30 days with ‘low grade fever’. He believes he got it standing in line at a Home Depot for an hour. Which brings me to my point - I believe ‘exposure rate’ is more important than wearing a mask. If you need to spend more than 5 minutes in a store, finish your shopping and come back later - works for me.


8 posted on 10/17/2020 10:01:41 PM PDT by 11th_VA (I believe Hunter BidenÂ’s emails ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Screw this stupid virus. At this point it’s all bullcrap

Go away


9 posted on 10/17/2020 10:04:39 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump Pence II! Save America again)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow we still have people here posting fear articles. They should at least leave a comment when they do.

Cuz nobody believes a word that comes out of any official’s mouth anymore.

It took me 5 weeks to feel strong again from a stomach virus. Maybe we should stay in forever because stomach viruses happen all the time.

When did that become so many cowards in the free world?


10 posted on 10/17/2020 10:05:28 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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Thank you for this informative posting.

Laz posted this eye-opener in April about the multiple ways this bug can kill you.

A few months after I read this article, I searched for one of the doctors and found this doozy about possible long-term effects for patients after they’ve survived the coronavirus. Doctors know now that the disease attacks many systems within the body — from the lungs and heart to the liver and kidneys, says Yale cardiologist Dr. Harlan Krumholz.

Of course, there has been a LOT of hysteria and unnecessary overkill in the response. And yes, the long-run expected case fatality rate of 0.4% is very low, though it is 3x higher than the 0.1% influenza CFR. Vaporizing the service sector wasn't smart.

But I also don't believe this was just a simple flu-like bug, and this was no boating accident.

11 posted on 10/17/2020 10:05:39 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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I believe you are on the right track. most of the troublesome cases are “in a waiting room fir 1 hour with a Covid person”.

I’m sure this is why they are not allowing people in bus and restaurants ...Barbers and hair stylists .... etc.


12 posted on 10/17/2020 10:25:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love BULL MARKETS!)
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But I also don't believe this was just a simple flu-like bug

In some ways it's been worse than the usual flu (higher mortality rate, but not that much higher, and much less than originally predicted) and in some ways it's not as bad as usual flu (extremely low infection/death rate for younger people and children, and low for most other healthy people). And all viruses result in some long-term effects in some people - posting that now is just fear-porn in my opinion.

Bottom line, it's hard to believe any medical expert now, which is sad. And quarantining healthy people and shutting down the economy over this has definitely been a big mistake, and reasonable and intelligent people knew that months ago and yet it still continues.

13 posted on 10/17/2020 10:27:40 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: Robert DeLong

the medical clinics (at least here-a very conservative state as well as the local V A ) are now telling people there is no treatment for chinavirus unless you get hospitalized, You are to go home take tylenol for fever and report to the hospital if your lips turn blue, you can finish a sentence or few words due to shortness of breath or your fever lasts more than 5 days. Otherwise you’re just S.O.L. ; My relative did the telemedical from 4 states away to get the HCQ cocktail to try to combat it.


14 posted on 10/17/2020 10:28:13 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death:Proverbs 8:36)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s always an exception isn’t there. Same thing with lottery tickets. If you but them you have a chance to win millions. COVID is like that. Most players are asymptomatic. Some players win a mild fever and a cough. The top prize is a trip to the hospital to be put on a ventilator and possibly die. The people who tell these one-off stories as cautionary tales are hyping extremely rare circumstances as high probability. Sure there’s a chance that for some people with no -Trump-like immune systems will have more issues than people like me. Donald Trump and Chuck Norris.


15 posted on 10/17/2020 10:51:55 PM PDT by webheart (Coronavirus, I give up. Come get me.)
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16 posted on 10/17/2020 10:55:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like the one year I was sick for 6 months after the flu, I had light case of pneumonia but it was like I was well except for my lungs.

Didn’t clear till I burnt it out with a burning hot diet of spicy food for 3 weeks that would make me sweat a pool of water each time.

Was inspired by Chinese and Thai beliefs in treating lung issues with spicy food.


17 posted on 10/17/2020 10:55:37 PM PDT by dila813
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To: norcal joe

“In some ways it’s been worse than the usual flu (higher mortality rate, but not that much higher, and much less than originally predicted) and in some ways it’s not as bad as usual flu (extremely low infection/death rate for younger people and children, and low for most other healthy people).”

Wrong on both counts. 28 times as likely to kill you as the common flu if you get it, and it has a distribution that is very similar to the common flu, just with a higher amplitude. If it were not for the significant mitigation efforts that were implemented, a lot more people would be dead from this.

It is astonishing that some people with access to actual data on the results of this virus are still in denial about its dangers.

The measures that were taken were necessary to save the HCS. We can sustain a low boil, now, and have developed treatments that keep things stable, if not ideal. We would actually have pretty good numbers, comparatively, if it were not for the fact that people like Cuomo are willing to kill the vulnerable just to deny President Trump a win.


18 posted on 10/17/2020 11:37:07 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just to raise a potential idea. There were a number of articles a few months back about how so many of the sicker virus patients concurrently had Epstein Barr Virus. The articles mentioned they weren’t sure whether the conovirus reactivated EBV or it was indication EBV was possibly part of the mix if this was an engineered virus. I had a reactivation of EBV a few years back after a series of long acting intra articular steroid injections caused some sort of immune system event. Sickest I have ever been for months and I was left with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which has left me with so many of the symptoms described as part of the coronavirus. I can no longer work it has affected every aspect of my life. The authors of the articles proposed that many of the serious patients would end up with CFS too. Hope not but I wonder if this is the case from this article.


19 posted on 10/17/2020 11:59:40 PM PDT by applpie
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To: norcal joe

Government isn’t a business.


20 posted on 10/18/2020 12:09:54 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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