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My Idea: ALLOW ALL 16 YEAR OLDS TO TAKE THE GED TEST

Posted on 09/24/2020 11:40:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

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To: Pollard
They’re already allowed to take the test but they don’t get the diploma until they’re 18.

Must be a state rule. My grandaughter passed hers at 16 and got her diploma in the mail in a week and used it to enroll in Nurse Assistant courses at the 2 yr college locally.

41 posted on 09/24/2020 12:25:04 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: DIRTYSECRET

In our county, and many counties and states, they allow Dual Enrollment.

Test into College Algebra, and Comp I, and you can take all your high school credits at the Community College, tuition free. The credits count toward your HS diploma and toward your AA. So for many, many students graduation from HS coincides with their earning their AAs, and at 18 they go can go to a 4 year college and start their BA as a Junior (state college merit scholarships can cover that tuition) and then you graduate with your BA or BS at 20. Two more years in grad school can be paid for if you work for the university as a Professor’s Assistant or Teaching Assistant ...grad school, no tuition.

If you live in a college rich area and can live at home and commute to class, you’re done with your BA and MBA or Master’s in whatever field you choose, and it’s all been debt free...and you’re 22 and the end of all school needed unless you want to be a “tenured” professor :). Look into it, see if your school system or state offers those programs. I know Florida and North Carolina does. I think Georgia does, and I’m sure many other schools must have them too.

They may have changed the rules now, but my son, our nephew and niece, and many of my son’s friends followed that exact model about 10-12 years ago. They were able to marry earlier, and afford a family, home ownership, etc., all at a relatively young age.


42 posted on 09/24/2020 12:32:48 PM PDT by dawn67yo
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To: humblegunner

Lists. I should think an advanced degree in blogging must include how to make lists. One of these days I fully expect to see....

My 666 ways to piss Humblegunner off.

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43 posted on 09/24/2020 12:33:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: RoosterRedux

exactly... free education for all with tests taken at any testing center... this is better than “low interest loans” for education.

Let serious students get on with life without crushing debt so they can provide jobs for the people that want the 7 year keg party plan.


44 posted on 09/24/2020 12:34:14 PM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: Responsibility2nd
My 666 ways to piss Humblegunner off.

Already posted.

45 posted on 09/24/2020 12:35:11 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: hanamizu
I have no idea of how hard it is now.

About 6 years ago, many schools began replacing the GED with other tests that are supposed to be more difficult. So... maybe, after you taught, the GED got easier (?) and then states decided the test needed to be more difficult again (?). I don't know. Maybe you will know: Here's the math covered on one of the newer tests.

46 posted on 09/24/2020 12:35:12 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: humblegunner

Please clarify your objection to blogs.


47 posted on 09/24/2020 12:35:21 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire
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To: Arcadian Empire

Oh please don’t go there. I’m quite sure Mr. gunner has not got hours and hours to briefly give you the details.


48 posted on 09/24/2020 12:37:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
And miss out on the great high school experience?


49 posted on 09/24/2020 12:38:40 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Told my high school sophomore if the schools are still jerking us around by his 16th birthday (in April), he has my blessing to get his GED and get on with life.


50 posted on 09/24/2020 12:43:44 PM PDT by viewfromthefrontier
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To: Magnum44

magnum-hindsight is always 20-20. Do you think most older folks would have missed something?


51 posted on 09/24/2020 12:44:48 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: RoosterRedux

If you join/volunteer for military service you can take the GED plus college (EOCT’s) end of course tests.


52 posted on 09/24/2020 12:45:40 PM PDT by Lumper20 (Our Congress must be stripped of FERS and their AFGE union insurance)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

This may come as a shock to many of today’s Americans, but most American high schools were two year schools before World War II. Most students graduated at age 16 and then either entered the work force (the vast majority) or went to college (the vast minority.)


53 posted on 09/24/2020 12:46:46 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I miss Don Imus!)
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To: Arcadian Empire
Please clarify your objection to blogs.

No, I think that I shall not.

You've only been here a few months. I've explained this
many times over many years. Look it up.

54 posted on 09/24/2020 12:52:40 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Correct. And neither did we have daycare, preschool and kindergarten as a precedent to first grade.


55 posted on 09/24/2020 12:53:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

My post was mostly sarc. But to your question, how can you miss something you never experience? As for myself, my ‘school daze’ were mostly positive and enjoyable. I cant say my high school was the best, but it was much better than whats available for most today.

The problem today is multi-fold. The schools are not what they were, the teachers not always up to actually teaching, society is no longer nuclear family based so the kids all have issues, and social media/status consumes all the kids attention and time (many of their parents as well). So today, opting to GED out and get on with a trade school, responsible job, or good college environment (assuming you can find that) may be a better alternative.


56 posted on 09/24/2020 12:54:37 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
A GED alone will not get a student very far. Honestly, what purpose does it really serve? In many (most?) states the curriculum has been dumbed down to make the test results nearly meaningless.

Years ago I filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the anonymous results of the New York State Algebra Regents Exam scores. Instead, they sent me the histogram of the distribution. They had normalized the data. When I plotted the results they did not fit a normal distribution. They were trimodal - meaning that there was a small group at the top of who had mastered the material. There was a big group in the middle. And then there was another big group near the bottom consisting of those who did not master even the basics of algebra.

Yet the Regents curved the distribution anyway and passed many who had not mastered the material and were not prepared for courses that build on algebra. My wife and daughter are both teachers. My wife teaches mainly 11th and 12th grades in Chemistry, Physics, and Math. My daughter teaches Earth Science to 9th and 10th grade students and an introductory physics class to mainly juniors and seniors. Both have to do a lot of remedial teaching.

One advantage of the COVID response to education is that both have prepared short videos that the students can use to refresh their understanding of a concept.

Students need to view their course work like Lego blocks. They are fun to play with when you start but even more useful when one puts the concepts together to solve a hard program. This ability prepares students for STEM courses. They are essential for students who want to get many good jobs.

In the workforce they will need to be able to use all the resources available to them to solve the problems that arise in their employment. The ability to do so and a good work ethic makes one much more employable than others who don't have a good work ethic.

57 posted on 09/24/2020 12:54:44 PM PDT by RetiredScientist
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To: DIRTYSECRET

There are kids in college at 16. Some are so smart they are in their 3rd or 4th year.


58 posted on 09/24/2020 1:00:26 PM PDT by Boomer (Leftists/Leftism ruins everything it touches.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; humblegunner

But why are you excerpting from your own blog? I just don’t get that!


59 posted on 09/24/2020 1:10:37 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Retrofitted
A GED opens the door to further education and job placement

That's screwy. The GED is less than high school equivalency. There is absolutely zero rigor to it. It might get you a job as a janitor. It certainly doesn't get you into any reputable college or university, although some community colleges may except it and then a person can prove their academic worth.

The SAT and ACT get you into college. A GED is only useful when you home school and your school district will not give a diploma, or if you drop out of school. It means nothing academically. Both of my daughters home schooled and did not receive a high school diploma. Their SATs in combination of a portfolio of home schooling work, and multiple AP Exams opened the door to colleges/universities.

Also, the idea of jumping into the job market as a career choice at age 12 is hideous, or age 16 for that matter. There is nothing wrong with working at those ages, but there's a lot of learning to do to avoid ignorance as an adult.

60 posted on 09/24/2020 1:16:38 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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