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The Speedwell, forgotten ship of the pilgrims’ voyage (400 years today?)
Bucks Co Courier Times ^ | November 22, 2017 | John Mullane

Posted on 08/01/2020 1:38:41 PM PDT by PghBaldy

Two ships were to carry the pilgrims to the New World, the Mayflower and the Speedwell.

Two ships would carry the Pilgrims to the New World, the Mayflower and the Speedwell. If you’ve never heard of the Speedwell, that’s because the ill-fated vessel was abandoned after two attempts heading to sea.

The Speedwell was a pine-hulled, square-sterner built in England in 1577 as the light warship, Swiftsure. She participated in the battle of the Spanish Armada, and later sailed as an exploration vessel to the Azores.

After her decommissioning, she was renamed Speedwell.


TOPICS: Education; History; Reference
KEYWORDS: azores; delfshaven; godsgravesglyphs; greatmigration; holland; mayflower; middleages; navigation; pilgrims; renaissance; spanisharmada; speedwell; swiftsure
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Wikipedia says today is the 400th anniversary of the Speedwell leaving Delfshaven, Holland to bring Pilgrims to America.
1 posted on 08/01/2020 1:38:42 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Some of my ancestors were on that ship!


2 posted on 08/01/2020 1:40:43 PM PDT by MissEdie (I am South Carolina Strong.)
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To: MissEdie

My husband was a Mayflower descendant from both Francis Cooke and John Alden and Priscilla Mullins.


3 posted on 08/01/2020 1:43:41 PM PDT by altura
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They were going to keep the Speedwell as a fishing / trading vessel. Have to wonder if things would have gone better or worse if she had made it.

More people but more supplies and they would have arrived a month or so earlier.

4 posted on 08/01/2020 1:53:34 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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Scene printed on the back of a U.S. $10,000 bill:


5 posted on 08/01/2020 1:57:01 PM PDT by Rio
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To: PghBaldy

Just like the 4th ship that accompanied the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria, it fell off the edge.


6 posted on 08/01/2020 2:15:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: altura

My ancestor was John Billington. He, along with his wife and son, were the most hated and despised members of the group. He was eventually the first person executed by the pilgrims and for many decades individuals who attempted to use him as their line to join The Mayflower Society were always blackballed.


7 posted on 08/01/2020 2:17:26 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: PghBaldy

Unless I see video and selfies, I ain’t buying it.


8 posted on 08/01/2020 2:18:03 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: freedumb2003

The Speedwell was the one carrying all the cats
and they knocked it off the edge.


9 posted on 08/01/2020 2:18:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MissEdie

Mine came over in 1634. But, that particular ancestor married a young lady whose family had come earlier as she had been born here. But, I haven’t learned her name yet or how that family arrived.


10 posted on 08/01/2020 2:22:48 PM PDT by Jemian (Was that before or after the fire was put out?)
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To: Portcall24

Was the son the one who came very close to blowing up the Mayflower?


11 posted on 08/01/2020 2:26:39 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: altura

My mother always said our ancestors were on the ship that followed the Mayflower- turns out it was the Speedwell. Wish someone would make a movie about it!


12 posted on 08/01/2020 2:29:40 PM PDT by MissEdie (I am South Carolina Strong.)
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To: Portcall24

My ancestor was John “MadJack” Oldham. He got run out of Plymouth for preaching differently from the pilgrims


13 posted on 08/01/2020 2:40:25 PM PDT by madmomma
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To: PghBaldy

The Speedwell initially was supposed to accompany the Mayflower.
She developed leaks three miles out of port and had to turn back.
I had ancestors on the Speedwell.
They had to come over later.


14 posted on 08/01/2020 3:01:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s the one.


15 posted on 08/01/2020 3:37:48 PM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Portcall24
I loved that story. It sounded like something I would do.

I'm bored. But I got some gun powdered... and some quills....

Let's get this party STARTED!

16 posted on 08/01/2020 3:48:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: SunkenCiv

*2017 article ping*


17 posted on 08/01/2020 4:11:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: altura

Then we are related! John Alden and the Mullins clan are my family too.


18 posted on 08/01/2020 4:12:55 PM PDT by Upcountry
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To: PghBaldy

A 43 year old ship built of pine in that era had to be unseaworthy before she pulled away from the quay. Ships that were listed as “repaired” or rebuilt were often a brand new ship except the fittings. That was done for accounting reason. I suspect that’s what happened to Speedwell.


19 posted on 08/01/2020 4:16:00 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: martin_fierro

Didn’t your relatives arrive on the REO Speedwagon?


20 posted on 08/01/2020 4:16:48 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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