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Is it Legal for rioters to stop and entrap us while we derive? Whihc law are they breaking?
freerepublic ^ | 7/7/20 | NLZ

Posted on 07/07/2020 9:00:32 AM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: NoLibZone

Depends on which state you live in. Blocking the road is most likely going to fit under a misdemeanor, like causing a public nuisance or disorderly conduct.

If they actually surround your vehicle and restrict you from being able to move, I’d say that is false arrest or kidnapping, but I’m not a lawyer, nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.


41 posted on 07/07/2020 9:28:23 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NoLibZone

The law doesn’t matter when power politics and ideology control government.

I learned that from having lived in communist countries.


42 posted on 07/07/2020 9:29:06 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NoLibZone

The fingers you are using to type, are too fat. To receive a special typing wand, mash the keyboard with your palm, now.


43 posted on 07/07/2020 9:30:36 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (In America 2.0, blacks are sacred and can do no wrong.)
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To: frank ballenger

“Hitting the car with rocks, concrete pieces and hammers, plus kicking and yelling-—are not a legal reason to shoot them. Not an imminent danger to your life.”

Well, frankly, that’s a judgment for the jury to make in each specific case. If you can convince a jury that they would have felt their lives were threatened if they were in that situation, you walk. If you can’t, you’re screwed.


44 posted on 07/07/2020 9:31:46 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cgbg
Somebody needs to invent/market a button-controlled license plate shield drivers could push instantly, which would hide or change the registered number.

They could be used for speed cameras and also for running over stupid people who think they have the right to protest on major roads and highways.

'Problem' solved...

45 posted on 07/07/2020 9:35:10 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: NoLibZone

I usually derive while sitting at my desk.


46 posted on 07/07/2020 9:36:17 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: NoLibZone

Is this going to be like that Beeber thread ?


47 posted on 07/07/2020 9:38:31 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Boogieman

Thanks for reply.

The City of Detroit police SUV surrounded by chanting and spitting BLM types recently resulted in 1) the back window being broken and then 2) police warning several times and then moving ahead. Thus two of the delicate rioters were injured in front as they refused to get out of the way.

Police Chief Craig (an African American) said “Our officers responded correctly. I ask you what you would do if you and your family were trapped in your vehicle with hostile people breaking your window? You should speed away if you can.”

Police Chief Craig much earlier said he believes people should buy guns and get training in self defense with them as police will not always be there in time.
God bless him for those statement.


48 posted on 07/07/2020 9:39:28 AM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: NoLibZone

Is it legal for police to deprive you of your weapon?

At all points, no. Also there is a natural law to think of as well.

My natural right to roam our earth, or the privilege granted to us by our treacherous government to do so on a paved surface in a vehicle that I pay for?

We need to pull the context away from thr viewpoint that we “are allowed” to do things. We are not “allowed” to do things. The constitution does not “allow” us. We are the masters here.

Any talk of “allow” should only be directed at government. The constitution allows them things, and tells them how to do those things. Nothing is designed to tell us, the citizens, what we can or cannot do.

Thus thr real answer is that if someone is blocking your path with the intent to harm you, they are in the wrong and you have a natural right to travel and defend yourself against attackers. The legal answer is different.


49 posted on 07/07/2020 9:44:00 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Toughluck_freeper

False imprisonment
Holding you against your will
Protests that block streets and highways should NEVER be issued permits by intimidated public officials and legal penalties need to be ramped up
All travel is essential


50 posted on 07/07/2020 9:44:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: Tax-chick

I would split the difference.


51 posted on 07/07/2020 9:45:12 AM PDT by xp38
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To: NoLibZone

I thought pedestrians ALWAYS had the right of way.

So they may not be breaking any law if all they do is walk and stand.


52 posted on 07/07/2020 9:45:36 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Prediction: G. Maxwell will surprise everyone by not dying anytime soon.)
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To: Reily

Trap us while we derive???

I can think of nothing worse then be trapped while deriving say the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus!
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Derivation is part of systematic racism and white supremacy.


53 posted on 07/07/2020 9:45:47 AM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS CERTAINLY A PRETEXT)
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To: Boogieman

Just say “I feared for my life”, then refer to the Provo video, where the white SUV was surrounded, then a gun was fired from very close range, into the SUV, wounding the driver.


54 posted on 07/07/2020 9:45:50 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: NoLibZone

Googled it for you...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_imprisonment


55 posted on 07/07/2020 9:48:43 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: USAF1985

Clearly the most heinous of all


56 posted on 07/07/2020 9:48:52 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: NoLibZone

No, they can’t stop cars. The driver can be held liable, but there are ways around it. First, a dashcam is a must. Second, if a reasonable person in your situation would be concerned they would be the next Reginald Denny, floor it. You’ll be fine, legally - at least in most states.

Also, people have a really hard time stepping in front of a car that they believe is not going to stop. Honking your horn, reving your engine, getting your tires to bark, all while not stopping, tend to cause people to instinctively get out of the way.

High speed does that too.


57 posted on 07/07/2020 9:48:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: CatOwner
“ Election Day 2020”

.Spot On!
58 posted on 07/07/2020 9:49:33 AM PDT by The Louiswu
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To: NoLibZone
Ohio Revised Code

2905.01 Kidnapping.

(A) No person, by force, threat, or deception, or, in the case of a victim under the age of thirteen or mentally incompetent, by any means, shall remove another from the place where the other person is found or restrain the liberty of the other person, for any of the following purposes:

(1) To hold for ransom, or as a shield or hostage;

(2) To facilitate the commission of any felony or flight thereafter;

(3) To terrorize, or to inflict serious physical harm on the victim or another;

(4) To engage in sexual activity, as defined in section 2907.01 of the Revised Code, with the victim against the victim's will;

(5) To hinder, impede, or obstruct a function of government, or to force any action or concession on the part of governmental authority;

(6) To hold in a condition of involuntary servitude.

(B) No person, by force, threat, or deception, or, in the case of a victim under the age of thirteen or mentally incompetent, by any means, shall knowingly do any of the following, under circumstances that create a substantial risk of serious physical harm to the victim or, in the case of a minor victim, under circumstances that either create a substantial risk of serious physical harm to the victim or cause physical harm to the victim:

(1) Remove another from the place where the other person is found;

(2) Restrain another of the other person's liberty.

(Emphasis added.)

59 posted on 07/07/2020 9:57:50 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Impeding Traffic
This offense is similar to driving too slowly in the left lane. ... No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or compliance with the law.” from NOLO.com


60 posted on 07/07/2020 9:59:06 AM PDT by Colo9250
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