Posted on 07/03/2020 4:21:46 AM PDT by tired&retired
In 1451, forty-one years before Columbus came to America, the Great Peacemaker Deganawida came to the Mohawk Indians to bring peace between the warring tribes.
He is the founder of the Haudenosaunee, commonly called the Iroquois Confederacy upon which our US government was modeled.
The Great Peacemaker worked all his life to bring his vision to fruition. He prophesied that a "white serpent" would come to his people's lands and make friends with them, only to deceive them later.
A "red serpent" would make war against the "white serpent", but a Native American boy would be given a great power. He would be accepted as a chosen leader by the people of "the land of the hilly country." The boy stays neutral in the fight, and he speaks to the people, who number as the blades of grass, but he is heard by all.
After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents".
According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun.
Deganawidah said that he would be that light. His nation would accept the "white serpent" into their safekeeping like a long-lost brother.
Whereas the original framers of the Constitution, including, most notably, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin, are known to have greatly admired the concepts of the Six Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy; Whereas the confederation of the original Thirteen Colonies into one republic was influenced by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the Constitution itself
I doubt that the Indians had European calendars ...
The hardest part of the Great Law is to understand the meaning of the concept of peace. Peace is not simply the absence of war. In the Iroquoian mind, peace is a state of mind. Power, which can easily be thought of as military strength, but more appropriately, it means that one heart, one mind, one head, and one body allowed the Confederacy to remain united in the face of many enemies.
So, the indians considered themselves to be red...as in Red Skin?
They used wampum belts to mark time.
“He is the founder of the Haudenosaunee, commonly called the Iroquois Confederacy upon which our US government was modeled.”
Nonsense. And the politically correct resolution by Congress in 1988, in an attempt to revise history, is still nonsense.
Growing up in NYS, I loved the year we studied NY history — maybe seventh grade. Can’t recall for sure. Loved the stories of the Iroquois Nation, and the different tribes in our area (I have Seneca and Genesee in the family).
Historians determined the year 1451 as the Senaca tribe history stated that they joined when “darkness came during mid day” or when there was a solar eclipse.
Modeled on the Iroquois Confederacy? Total BS. The Confederacy was a warring machine.
Wait, so the Union wasn't one?
Many tribes migrated and moved into the Iroquois territory to live under their protection in peace.
The Tuscarora moved up from the Carolinas. The Delawares also moved in.
The Confederacy allowed much autonomy for member tribes.
My surprise is that the dark or black serpent is the demise of the white serpent.
“Iroquois Great Peacemaker and Prophet Predicts Fall of USA to Black Serpent”
Obviously, a racist. Any statues must be spray-painted and torn down. His bones must be exhumed, burned and scattered like dust in the wind. His descendents must be located and hounded on Twitter, jobs taken, lives ruined.
Where’s the Antifa/Twitter Vindictive Crowd when you need’em?
“Nonsense. And the politically correct resolution by Congress in 1988, in an attempt to revise history, is still nonsense.”
My feelings exactly.
Didn’t Deganawidah also say “ I’d walk a mile for a camel” (peace pipe) and “Where’s the beef” (buffalo).
I wouldn’t worry too much. So far the black serpent is not smart enough to get off welfare, abandon the Democratic party or stop aborting all their babies. 10%-12% of the population is not going to kill whitey.
This article has been passed around the internet since the internet was thing.
It's an example of a 'grain of truth' morphing into a narrative that has become an alleged historical fact.
'Why is this history hidden from us' people ask themselves when they read this. 'People need to know the truth about the Constitution and Democracy in America' they proclaim and share this in email and social media posts. 'Why was the Indians' contribution to America left out of the history books? Racism?'
Here's a tip. If it sounds to good to be true it isn't true.
This narrative was someones' attempt to cobble together fragments of history to construct alternative history.
"Nevertheless, the consensus among historians seems to be that there's no compelling evidence that the Founding Fathers directly imitated the Iroquois Great Law when they wrote the U.S. Constitution. As PolitiFact details, the Iroquois system had some significant differences from the political system that the former colonists created. For one, the Iroquois had hereditary office-holders, something that more resembled the English system that the Americans were rebelling against."
Yes, colonists would have been aware of the governing structure of the Natives, talked about it, wrote about it, and discussed it but that doesn't mean they were the foundation of the American republic and the Constitution.
Was the Iroquois Great Law of Peace the Source for the U.S. Constitution?
Too bad about the Erie Indians in Ohio.. The Iroquois moved in to their domain to secure hunting grounds and brutally wiped out the peaceful and backward tribe. The Iroquois, armed with firearms provided by the French in exchange for furs, were about as peaceful as the Roman Empire.
Next up:
Deganawida attacked as white supremacist.
Ollie: Use “Deganawida” in a sentence.
LaTonka: Dey sed dey gana go aw’ multiculcheral, wif dem Injins an’ us Black peepah, but deganawida den eva.
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