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Up, Up and Away! World's largest all-electric aircraft takes to the skies for the first time making a 30-minute flight over Washington State-(100 mile range...)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk ^

Posted on 05/28/2020 11:36:48 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Up, Up and Away! World's largest all-electric aircraft takes to the skies for the first time making a 30-minute flight over Washington State

A single test pilot flew the all-electric aircraft over Moses Lake in Washington

MagniX have added their 750-watt electric motor to a Cessna Grand Caravan

It can seat up to nine people and required few changes to make it all electric

They hope to have a 100-mile range commercial version on sale in 2021

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Magnum44

“Once again, you reply with a cryptic pic, no information, no context. “

Paint with Harbor Air and MagniX.

Harbor Air is the one you laughed at that wouldn’t go electric.

MagnaX is the motor manufacturer listed in the OP article.


121 posted on 05/28/2020 3:16:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
Yep, and your map shows flights out to 300 miles which MagniX says they wont be at until 2030 (if you can believe there website). So for now, with 100 mile range, you can tour the bay around Seattle, when its not overcast.

I'm not so down on this innovator as I am on your crass attitude in playing gotcha. You never acknowledged that POH data is not inclusive of FAA restrictions on flights, nor should it be. You seem to think you have made some point. Good for you.

I think that this battery powered plane will cost a lot more than Harbor Air thinks once VFR flyable days in battery friendly temperatures is factored in. Like a tesla driver, someone will feel good, and thats whats important. But I am not a nuclear power plant operator so what do I know. I've only been aviating since 79'.

122 posted on 05/28/2020 3:31:44 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

In the caption: Today marked the first flight test of the 750-horsepower magni500 all-electric propulsion system on a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan in Moses Lake, Washington.

Ahh, makes much more sense, now.


123 posted on 05/28/2020 3:44:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: Magnum44

” You never acknowledged that POH data is not inclusive of FAA restrictions on flights, nor should it be. You seem to think you have made some point. Good for you. “

The point is the company did not declare the max range. It declared commercial operations of 100 miles range.


124 posted on 05/28/2020 3:58:34 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Well actually it said...They hope to have a 100-mile range commercial version on sale in 2021. See the difference?


125 posted on 05/28/2020 4:01:34 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

“Yep, and your map shows flights out to 300 miles which MagniX says they wont be at until 2030 “

Harbor Air says their longest route is 168 miles (Seattle to Vancouver) and they expect to make that in 2022.


126 posted on 05/28/2020 4:10:25 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Magnum44

“Well actually it said...They hope to have a 100-mile range commercial version on sale in 2021. See the difference?”

Yep. Not the max range specification. Also not a direct quote from the manufacturer.


127 posted on 05/28/2020 4:12:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

No, a working number that I stated was pretty useless for anything but local area flight. Wow, do you just look for argument or does it seek you out?


128 posted on 05/28/2020 4:17:34 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If it wants to fly IFR it will need redundant independent flight instruments at a minimum. That can be done with independent electrical systems, which is what is done in some glass cockpit aircraft today. A vacuum system would not be independent in an electric powered engine.


129 posted on 05/28/2020 4:24:15 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: TexasGator

Well magnix says they will be at 150 miles in 2025, so they have a scheduling challenge.


130 posted on 05/28/2020 4:26:38 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: TexasGator

Unless the lithium hydride battery decides to spontaneously combust.


131 posted on 05/28/2020 4:31:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
They ALL use Li-ion batteries! Here’s Tesla...

Sure, battery life has gone up a bit, charging times down a bit, and storage capacity up a bit, but no dramatic breakthroughs like the creation of Li-ion almost 40 years ago.

132 posted on 05/28/2020 4:40:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Unless the lithium hydride battery decides to spontaneously combust.

See the source image

133 posted on 05/28/2020 4:49:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Magnum44

“Well magnix says they will be at 150 miles in 2025, so they have a scheduling challenge.”

I found a third source that says they say they will be double by 2025.

They are referring to HA’s statement of a 100 mile flying range. That would be 200 miles.


134 posted on 05/28/2020 4:57:20 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Strip-mining for the raw materials for batteries is a thousand times more harmful to the environment than fracking, and most all the electricity used to charge them comes from burning carbon, but the important thing is that you get to virtue signal and tell yourself how much smarter than everyone else you are.

By the way, where did you get your engineering degree?


135 posted on 05/28/2020 5:00:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: Magnum44

“and I expect an electric conversion wont be any cheaper”

MagniX states the conversion is approximately the cost of the turbine overhaul. From then on it is all savings.


136 posted on 05/28/2020 5:01:13 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
like the creation of Li-ion almost 40 years ago.

But no electric cars 40 years ago...........

137 posted on 05/28/2020 5:02:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Strip-mining for the raw materials for batteries is a thousand times more harmful to the environment than fracking, and most all the electricity used to charge them comes from burning carbon, “

Sixty percent in the U.S.. In some areas almost none is carbon based. When did. you. become a rabid environmentalist?


138 posted on 05/28/2020 5:05:54 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“By the way, where did you get your engineering degree?”

U of F.


139 posted on 05/28/2020 5:08:06 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

I am sick to death of you fake environmental fanboys destroying the environment with huge solar farms and bird-killing wind turbines that require far more carbon energy than they produce.

https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2010/04/08/wind-power-is-a-complete-disaster/

There is no evidence that industrial wind power is likely to have a significant impact on carbon emissions. The European experience is instructive. Denmark, the world’s most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power’s unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone).

Flemming Nissen, the head of development at West Danish generating company ELSAM (one of Denmark’s largest energy utilities) tells us that “wind turbines do not reduce carbon dioxide emissions.” The German experience is no different. Der Spiegel reports that “Germany’s CO2 emissions haven’t been reduced by even a single gram,” and additional coal- and gas-fired plants have been constructed to ensure reliable delivery.


140 posted on 05/28/2020 5:09:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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