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The Problem with a 5G Phone
YouTube ^ | December 19, 2018 | Dave Lee / Dave2D / D2D

Posted on 12/15/2019 10:01:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Mariner

Are they going to compensate the service price because 5G is not available to those rural folks? Rural America is still about 48% of the population. These greedy companies are going to force them to pay the same universal base monthly service cost just to even get any phone service at all. “All or nothing” 5G data service available or not... This greed is the problem with this whole concept.


21 posted on 12/15/2019 11:51:57 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Clay Moore

“One of the commercials running on the radio talks of 1 tower being able to serve “hundreds of square miles.”

Nope, they are absolutely lying, they already found this out when they did the first tests in the inner cities where the coverage was overlapping and saturated. 4G was still better and the 5G coverage sucked. And that was “downtown” with a purpose built test infrastructure meant to prove how good it is.


22 posted on 12/15/2019 11:56:44 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Future Snake Eater

3G is akin to regular landline.
4G is of immense benefit to the surveillance state, but also of some benefit to the consumer.

A prudent consumer can manage how much data the companies and state are able to mine from it.

With 5G there is not choice. It’s all built in.


23 posted on 12/15/2019 12:14:16 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SunkenCiv

For some reason when I hear all the 5g promises I think of high speed rail and the Concorde.

Do I really need my refrigerator ordering milk for me.

And who is it anyway that will be controlling the power level of all these microwave frequencies needed to make it work.

Oh an by the way when China’s market collapses where are we going to get all the cheap parts to keep it all going.


24 posted on 12/15/2019 12:31:13 PM PST by MagillaX
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To: newfreep; Macoozie
With so many public hotspots, I rarely use my 4G connection.
I'm still on a flip phone, I don't know what "G" it even is. I do know that I don't lose signal when I'm talking and taking an elevator, and the smartphone nerds are all screwed at that point, and complaining about it. I'm looking forward (a little bit) to an older-gen feature phone sometime in the near future, but I'm going to shop on signal reception ratings if I can.
Total Recall-Sunspots

Total Recall-Richter is pissed

25 posted on 12/15/2019 12:35:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: mountainlion

> Doesn’t the 5G operate at a height frequency than a microwave?

Instructions unclear. Put phone in microwave and now get no signal.


26 posted on 12/15/2019 5:25:25 PM PST by Do_Tar (Do I really need a /joke?)
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To: Mariner

Maybe folks will start connecting their computers to their phones for faster internet service....instead of the other way around.


27 posted on 12/16/2019 2:37:54 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Mariner

what is all built in?


28 posted on 12/16/2019 2:52:44 AM PST by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Openurmind

“For at least 50 years or more it will not be “available” anywhere outside of larger city limits ...”

That’s great incentive for moving into rural districts!


29 posted on 12/16/2019 3:18:35 AM PST by USAF1985 (ItÂ’s the Spanish Inquisition!!!!!)
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Chinese Ambassador Threatens Small European Territory over Huawei 5G Contract
Breitbart.com | December 15, 2019 | Kurt Zindulka
Posted on 12/16/2019 5:14:02 AM PST by House Atreides
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3801192/posts


30 posted on 12/16/2019 6:09:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Chickensoup; Chode; Clay Moore; Disambiguator; Do_Tar; dljordan; FReepers; FRiends; ...
Additional: was in the related vids this morning when I woke for my first P-break.
For the third year running, Qualcomm flew me to Hawaii and put me up for the annual Snapdragon Summit, where for the third year running, the next generation smartphone and laptop chips were announced. Also on site: a parade of executives proclaiming (yet again) that “5G is here!”

But this year is different … because it’s actually true.

On December 6th, T-Mobile made it official, by flipping the switch on a nationwide deployment of 5G that covers 200 million people. But what does that really mean, and more importantly, should you care? I took a OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren Edition for a Maui test drive on T-Mobile 5G to find out!

The Truth About T-Mobile 5G | MrMobile [Michael Fisher] | December 10, 2019


The Truth About T-Mobile 5G

31 posted on 12/16/2019 6:12:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think there is a lot of confusion over 5 Ghz and 5 G (fifth generation). They are not the same thing at all.


32 posted on 12/16/2019 9:04:21 AM PST by Disambiguator ("Progressives" want government in action. Conservatives want government inaction.)
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To: Disambiguator
Hey, if cell phones used shortwave, we'd only need one tower. ;^)

33 posted on 12/16/2019 9:08:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Probably not yet. My company is very involved in the supporting infrastructure for 5G. We are at least 5 years from serious deployment of it in the urban areas. Suburban coverage will take a decade. Rural areas may never get coverage.

L


34 posted on 12/16/2019 9:11:10 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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European Union’s new 5G policy could exclude Chinese businesses
Bloomberg Brussels | Updated on November 20, 2019
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/european-unions-new-5g-policy-could-exclude-chinese-businesses/article30027783.ece


35 posted on 12/16/2019 9:12:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Lurker
Rural areas are getting fiber (I live in one; it's not as rural as it was when I was a kid, though, but what was?) which can obviate the need for faster mobile phones, as the Netflix et al streaming can rely on the in-home wifi. Wild guess is, 4G will see some slight improvements and remain the standard for a long time to come. The greater ($200-$300) handset costs for 5G make the buildout look kinda ugly from the perspective of trying to sell it. If the network is available, it could leave a premium phone opening between now and when Apple rolls out theirs. But that won't last.

36 posted on 12/16/2019 9:18:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

We’ve been laying fiber for one of the major carriers for about two years how. In what we designate a Central Business District it can cost over $900 a FOOT to lay fiber. The suburban areas are about half that but it’s much more spread out. So the costs are about even when the numbers are run.

L


37 posted on 12/16/2019 9:29:11 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker
So the longterm power cost and the increase in bandwidth must be worth it to someone, eh? Without a faster ground-based network, there won't be any mobile phone capacity buildout, so, laying it now makes sense.

38 posted on 12/16/2019 9:31:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

We only supply the transport. But you’re right. More than a few folks are betting heavy money on 5G. I don’t have a dog in the fight so I don’t care. If the checks clear we will run fiber to your bath tub.

Merry Christmas!

L


39 posted on 12/16/2019 9:37:33 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

but wait... if I have fiber run to the bath tub, won’t I die of light electrocution?!? ;^) Merry Christmas!


40 posted on 12/16/2019 10:01:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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