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On this date in 1864

Posted on 09/03/2019 5:05:43 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

President Abraham Lincoln receives a telegram from General Sherman stating "Atlanta is ours, and fairly won"


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1 posted on 09/03/2019 5:05:43 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

If you believe ‘FAIRLY WON’ means making war on American Civilians then you have a problem.

Sherman and Grant should have been court martialed for making war on non-combatants and hung.


2 posted on 09/03/2019 5:29:13 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind blows too much)
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To: MattMusson

Amen.


3 posted on 09/03/2019 5:31:07 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: Ancient Man

” Fairly won “ ?

At the expense of the innocent non-combatants who were killed, and burned out of their homes and businesses ?

Mr. Lincoln’s unconstitutional war, and “ fairly “, are not compatible .


4 posted on 09/03/2019 5:37:06 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: MattMusson

“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”

Major General William Tecumseh Sherman


5 posted on 09/03/2019 5:39:43 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: MattMusson
>>Sherman and Grant should have been court martialed for making war on non-combatants and hung.<<

Agree. For decades, we've been fed the revisionist take on the war of Northern aggression.

Sherman in today's America would have been labeled a fascist, bigot, racist, Nazi.

Now, here we are. Warshington D.C. and the whole cabal screwing up our nation.

6 posted on 09/03/2019 5:45:57 AM PDT by servantboy777
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In 1944 he would have commanded 3rd army in Europe.


7 posted on 09/03/2019 5:56:33 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: MattMusson

Wrong. They were suppressing a rebellion on orders of the President, and approved by congress, and authorized by the laws of the United States and the constitution.


8 posted on 09/03/2019 5:57:00 AM PDT by OIFVeteran
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>>In 1944 he would have commanded 3rd army in Europe.<<

Highly doubtful. He’d likely be in prison for the slaughter of indigenous American inhabitants...Indians.


9 posted on 09/03/2019 6:15:34 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: OIFVeteran

And we need to remember...... the south fired the first shots


10 posted on 09/03/2019 6:15:56 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: Bull Snipe

How were there any telegraph lines to send the message from Sherman near Atlanta to Washington? Wouldn’t the war have destroyed most of them?


11 posted on 09/03/2019 6:36:33 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: Bull Snipe

A watershed event.


12 posted on 09/03/2019 6:39:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: servantboy777

That was not an issue in 1944


13 posted on 09/03/2019 6:39:20 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: OIFVeteran

State secession is not unconstitutional.


14 posted on 09/03/2019 6:40:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CptnObvious

The telegraph lines followed the RR tracks and it was the cavalry’s job to make sure they weren’t cut.


15 posted on 09/03/2019 6:41:41 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: servantboy777
Sherman in today's America would have been labeled a fascist, bigot, racist, Nazi.

What, against the Slave Power South?

Today's Left would think the Confederacy--not Sherman--worse than Nazis.

He'd be as welcome a war hero among them as Zukov was by the Soviets.

16 posted on 09/03/2019 6:42:22 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: joe fonebone

The garrison at Fort Sumter was there to enforce Lincoln’s insane tariff. It was given every opportunity to abandon the fort. Lincoln wanted the Southerners to fire the first shot, much as FDR wanted the Japanese to initiate WW2 at Pearl Harbor.

NEA history books have successfully indoctrinated the masses.

The only casualty at Fort Sumter was a horse. When the garrison finally surrendered, the South Carolina brigade saluted the northerners as they departed the harbor.


17 posted on 09/03/2019 6:42:23 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: CptnObvious

The Signal Corp of the army did an excellent job of keeping the telegraph system up and operating. I would expect the route would have been from Atlanta across NW Georgia into TN then to Nashville, TN then into OH or WV then across PA, or Md to DC.


18 posted on 09/03/2019 6:44:28 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: joe fonebone

>>And we need to remember...... the south fired the first shots<<

...at an invading army. Good grief!

Would we now fire the first shot if Chinese army units landed on Galveston island?

The South seceded from the union, creating a separate country.

Furthermore, Lincoln, the great emancipator, was quoted on numerous occasions fighting the war..not to free slaves, but to preserve the union.

Lincoln’s letter to Horace Greeley:
My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.

In his own words.

Sherman/Sheridan were responsible for the death of thousands of native Americans. In fact, Sheridan coined the phrase, “the only good Indian is a dead Indian.”

War is hell...granted, but in today’s society some of these guys would be charged with war crimes with utilizing tactics against civilians.


19 posted on 09/03/2019 6:49:13 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: MattMusson
If you believe ‘FAIRLY WON’ means making war on American Civilians then you have a problem.

"If the people raise a great howl against my barbarity and cruelty, I will answer that war is war, and not popularity seeking." -- William T. Sherman

20 posted on 09/03/2019 6:51:47 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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