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Amish & Mennonite construction workers claim exemption from Taxes creating unfair competition.
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Posted on 06/02/2019 5:21:24 AM PDT by tired&retired

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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
We were burned by some local contractors on a home addition. Hired a Mennonite crew to finish, great workers, sang hymns in German as they worked. Did a good job and finished ahead of schedule.
41 posted on 06/02/2019 6:29:48 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: tired&retired
They are often greedy and fall for get rich quick scams.

That isn't the public face I see. Their produce and fresh pies and jellies make them a welcome treat in my community. I wish them all the best.

42 posted on 06/02/2019 6:30:36 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: tired&retired

I imagine somebody is trying to use that dimwitted social justice shame thing.


43 posted on 06/02/2019 6:32:53 AM PDT by Terry L Smith (.)
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To: chrisser

Here are the church requirements per the IRS 4029 Form:

Recognized religious group. A recognized religious group must meet all the following requirements.

• It is conscientiously opposed to accepting benefits of any private or public insurance that makes payments in the event of death, disability, old age, or retirement; makes payments for the cost of medical care; or provides services for medical care (including social security and Medicare benefits).

• It has provided a reasonable level of living for its dependent members.

• It has existed continuously since December 31, 1950.


44 posted on 06/02/2019 6:36:35 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Every Amish girl’s dream: 2 Mennonite.


45 posted on 06/02/2019 6:40:04 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: tired&retired

Good for them. What they are doing is legal, and more power to them.

I’d like to see all Americans receive the same tax freedom someday.


46 posted on 06/02/2019 6:41:28 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: ExGeeEye

“The solution is not to tax them.

It’s to stop taxing us.”

Bump.


47 posted on 06/02/2019 6:41:29 AM PDT by JPJones (More Tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: cyclotic

Good post.

All I will say in terms or religion, is if you aren’t Catholic [or part of a group that has a hierarchy that is supposed to interpret authoritatively], who am I (or you) to judge, and if you are Catholic (which I am), what exactly do you do with Francis.

What a time.

The Amish do show people how to go Gault.


48 posted on 06/02/2019 6:45:10 AM PDT by Hieronymus ("I shall drink--to the Pope, if you please,-still, to Conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.")
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To: JonPreston

“That isn’t the public face I see. Their produce and fresh pies and jellies make them a welcome treat in my community. I wish them all the best.”

I am an insider, aware of the problems.

For example, one member in the Southeast Pennsylvania area started borrowing money by issuing high rate CD’s to pay for his business operations. He advertised in the Amish newspapers to get people’s $$$$. He borrowed $11 million and could not pay it back.

The Pennsylvania Department of Banking investigated and was going to bring charges against him. All the Amish people scammed would not file a complaint, except one investor. The scammed investors pooled their money and paid off this one investor to stop criminal charges. I spoke personally with the head investigator at the PA DOB and he told me of this case. I represented several investors who lost $$$$, and spoke with the scammer trying to clear this up, to no avail. The Amish just wrote off their losses on their IRS tax returns and paid less taxes.

They will not bring court action.


49 posted on 06/02/2019 6:46:26 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

We live near an Amish community and an old order Mennonite community.
Both groups use horse and buggy for transportation. They are the only ones around who work on the old tobacco barns. Problem is you have to go get them and bring them to your place and then tow their tool trailer.
Then you’ve got 5 or 6 of the foulest smelling sumbitches you’ve ever been around in your truck. All in all they’re good neighbors.


50 posted on 06/02/2019 6:46:27 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: tired&retired

Shouldn’t the Amish tax advantage be more than offset by the use of hewn lumber, hand forged nails, manual tools, etc?


51 posted on 06/02/2019 6:47:54 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fungoking

An area chimney sweep we know is a fallen away Mennonite.
He said no one in his former clan would speak to him or have anything to do with him or his family.
His wife still wears the long skirts and hair bun of the Mennonite group.


52 posted on 06/02/2019 6:49:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Hieronymus

For the uninformed (including me)

Urban Dictionary:

Going Galt:

Referring to John Galt from Ayn Rand’s novel “Atlas Shrugged”, Going Galt means leaving what you see as a society crumbling in on itself and going somewhere else to watch it all burn to the ground.


53 posted on 06/02/2019 6:49:59 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Shunning is the norm for non compliant members when they are ejected.

When this happens, even if other church members are your employees, they are all required to quit your employment.

I’ve observed this in many non-Amish groups including Messianic Jewish groups.


54 posted on 06/02/2019 6:53:04 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: chrisser

Actually, yes. You can join those BELIEFS whether you join an existing body or not. And in America that makes your religion what you say it is


55 posted on 06/02/2019 6:53:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Palio di Siena

I very much agree with many of their doctrines, especially non reliance upon the government.

Many will not take any government handout, including farm subsidies and price support payments for milk. If they receive a check erroneously from the government, they will not cash it. I just saw this happen last week where an Amish got a check for over $8,000 and will not cash it as it was from the government. I’ve convinced them to give the money to the Mennonite Foundation for disaster relief as they will spend it better than returning it to the government.

You can’t imagine the fiasco it causes when you return a government check.


56 posted on 06/02/2019 6:58:16 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: xzins

“Actually, yes. You can join those BELIEFS whether you join an existing body or not. And in America that makes your religion what you say it is”

Yes, However to qualify for the exemption from the tax:

Recognized religious group. A recognized religious group must meet all the following requirements.

• It is conscientiously opposed to accepting benefits of any private or public insurance that makes payments in the event of death, disability, old age, or retirement; makes payments for the cost of medical care; or provides services for medical care (including social security and Medicare benefits).

• It has provided a reasonable level of living for its dependent members.

• It has existed continuously since December 31, 1950.


57 posted on 06/02/2019 7:01:55 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

But they are taking jobs away from our illegals and their having large families slows down a little our being replaced.


58 posted on 06/02/2019 7:09:47 AM PDT by stagline
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To: tired&retired

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg


59 posted on 06/02/2019 7:15:25 AM PDT by Reily
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To: tired&retired

“Many beat and abuse their wives, children and animals. They are often greedy and fall for get rich quick scams.”

The ones in my area are notorious for running very inhumane puppy mills.


60 posted on 06/02/2019 7:27:52 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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