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Posted on 05/14/2019 1:03:51 PM PDT by SleeperCatcher
“He’s on a roll...”
Seriously, I just shake my head whenever I hear that China is some leader in renewable energy and environmentally conscious stuff. Having been there, I can say China is horrible. Its air pollution is so bad it now spreads out over South Korea and Japan. I’ve been in Seoul on days when I just start hacking away from the bad air quality from the “fine dust” from China.
Went to Vietnam recently. It’s just as bad in Hanoi, the whole city is covered by this gloomy grey pall which you at first think is fog but is really air pollution. Check out the videos of Trump and Kim Jong Un meeting and their driving through the streets of Hanoi. Looks like that all the time. The sun doesn’t shine there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZXG30frtnY
@#$& china to hell, the lying, cheating bastards.
Well put.
China will take care of neither its pollution nor its elderly and it won’t care one bit.
They won’t need to - Maizie Hirono and her staff will be waiting on the beach to greet them with leis.
True, but there are significant exceptions. On another thread it was noted* that the EU runs a much smaller deficit with China than the US does. (This is especially noteworthy given that the EU is a close second to the US in GDP, and it runs an overall trade surplus with the non-EU world.) A trade deficit with China is ok if you can use it as part of an overall positive...
It was also noted that Germany runs a trade surplus with China. Other countries do too. How? Well, here's one example:
https://www.quora.com/Do-any-countries-have-a-trade-surplus-with-China
While I do not agree 100% with the author of the above, I do agree a key thing here is to maintain a tech edge, and that is where even the Euro's are on board when it comes to intellectual property theft. The Chinese, and by that I mean the people, not just the leadership, have this sort of "collectivist" notion that if I invent a better widget, EVERYBODY has a right to the design. After that, it is just a matter of who can work harder, study in school better, hone their pencils or cut corners sharper, more efficiently engage in corruption, or whatever... And they are very good at all those things. This is VERY hard to negotiate away in a way that can be enforced: It's not just successful for them, it's "bred in the bone", to quote Star Trek TNG's Commander K'Nera.
Nonetheless, we have to make it too painful to the Chinese to not change their ways, and make it profitable for both sides to both compete and cooperate -- it CAN be done.
Unfortunately, to get this done in a reasonable time frame, we end up for the most part chasing Chinese mfg. to other countries (Vietnam, Philippines, etc.) This likely helps on the IP front, as well as pressuring China. (The smaller countries are likely to be more cooperative on the IP issue, than China readily is.) But, it may not help our overall trade deficit by much, for a while.
Is that (Hanoi) pollution from China? Local sources? Both?
Right after the War, the "Blame America for dropping the bomb" meme was in full swing.
Some reporter(s) went around the world, asking if we were bad people for dropping the bomb.
When they got to Asia, the reply was usually "Why did you drop only two?"
“Isn’t this how World War II in the Pacific started?”
No. Japan was an imperialistic nation with a warlord leadership that decided to expand it territory to subsume China plus all other Pacific territories, including those owned by the British and U.S., as well as Australia and New Zealand ... they sneak-attacked the U.S. without declaring war in the hope of taking out our Pacific Fleet so we couldn’t defend our own Pacific territories that the Japanese also simultaneously attacked ... they failed ...
And they will pay for it in a horrible fashion when they find out the hard way much of the population (20% of all humans!) are seriously ill from pollution effects.
The purpose of all the new cities is to drive the people into urban settings.
Is that (Hanoi) pollution from China? Local sources? Both?
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