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Ford invests $500 million in electric pickup startup Rivian, will make an EV together
Electrek ^ | 24 April 2019 | Fred Lambert

Posted on 04/24/2019 6:32:14 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Along with the investment, Ford confirmed that it will use Rivian’s electric platform to develop a Ford-branded all-electric vehicle.

Last year, we took a close look at Rivian’s electric platform, which the startup claims enable a range of up to 400 miles.

Rivian was already using Ford F-150 pickups as test mules to test its powertrain for its own R1T pickup, but the two companies confirmed that the vehicle they are partnering on is not an electric F-150.

(Excerpt) Read more at electrek.co ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: amazon; california; elonmusk; ev; ford; generalmotors; illinois; michigan; rivian; tesla
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I draw this line at electric Corvettes.


21 posted on 04/24/2019 7:52:43 AM PDT by Rappini (Compromise has its place. It's called second.)
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To: central_va

Yea, and they’re all running off old deep cycle marine batteries too.

Tech is changing almost daily now. Fast charging Batteries, super caps, whatever; some entity’s gonna crack it. And when they do, everything is going to change - again. The future is always tomorrow, but sometimes, today catches up with it. Briefly, Until tomorrow takes us further down the road.


22 posted on 04/24/2019 8:01:32 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: central_va

EV’s = boutique niche market

No disagreement, but the market is changing quickly.

“8 hour recharge times? EV are automotive devolution. Less range and long recharge times = no convenience at all.”

Clearly, you are a man of destiny, always on the go.
Best for you to stay with your BMW, but they too are going EV.


23 posted on 04/24/2019 8:04:08 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: UCANSEE2
I wonder what kind of massive 'charger' these 'super' EVs will take? What good is it if you can go 200mph but have to sit at a charging station for 2 hours ?

350KW chargers are in the works. Porsche says its Mission E will be able to recharge 250 miles in about 15 minutes.

Tesla has a 250KW supercharging station in the works. The Model 3 will able to take advantage of the faster stations when deployed. Older S and X models won't be able to charge any faster than they do now. Tesla is converting the S and X models to the new battery tech. Tesla says 75 miles in 5 minutes for the new superchargers.

24 posted on 04/24/2019 8:04:48 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Will EV’s come with wool blankets for winter driving when the batteries run low? EV’s are fair weather boutique machines designed for rich Californians.


25 posted on 04/24/2019 8:06:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: taildragger
during the throws of

throes of

26 posted on 04/24/2019 8:09:23 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: UCANSEE2

What good is it if you can go 200mph but have to sit at a charging station for 2 hours ?

A friend that runs a drag car, would be very excited to see 200MPH!

With checking the car and fueling and setting in line it can easily take 2 hours between runs!
For 200MPH I think he would make the trade.

And rest assured, he cares nothing about alleged climate change.


27 posted on 04/24/2019 8:10:33 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: Windflier

Thanks!


28 posted on 04/24/2019 8:16:40 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: Rappini

I draw this line at electric Corvettes.

Not sure hot to break this to you easily?

Duntov died.

It is over.


29 posted on 04/24/2019 8:16:54 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

i like my infernal combustion engines


30 posted on 04/24/2019 8:25:16 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: central_va
EV’s are fair weather boutique machines designed for rich Californians.

It gets very cold in parts of California.

Now, Virginia has a very nice climate for an EV and a man of means such as yourself.

Quit dragging your feet and enjoy the sweet, quiet and fast ride.

31 posted on 04/24/2019 8:29:03 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: teeman8r

i like my infernal combustion engines

Not a problem.
You can ease your way over to an EV by starting with a nice Hybrid.

PS:
I love my wife’s Prius V!
An amazing display of technology.


32 posted on 04/24/2019 8:32:18 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The Rivian truck with the 400 mile range sells for $90,000.00.
One with a lesser range costs $70,000.00


33 posted on 04/24/2019 9:54:53 AM PDT by BansheeBill
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To: DUMBGRUNT; UCANSEE2
DUMBGRUNT wrote: What good is it if you can go 200mph




Cause I can surely go 200 MPH in this?
34 posted on 04/24/2019 10:38:02 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: ro_dreaming

UCANSEE2 posted the 200mph statement, I was responding.

The photo looks like most days on the Chicago freeway system, and I have way too much experience with it.

NB: EV’s maximize energy use in bad traffic.
Regen works!


35 posted on 04/24/2019 11:00:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: BansheeBill

So?

Most everything has a demand curve.

Have you looked at the Ford 150 Limited lately?


36 posted on 04/24/2019 11:10:43 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That’s Houston’s, actually, but yeah, any major metro area that’s what it looks like.

I realize that EV’s “shut down” in stop and go traffic, but in Houston, having the AC, radio, butt coolers (like seat warmers, but, ya know, to cool it off), etc. running will take a LOT of juice. Not to mention that the Houston heat and humidity will play hell with the recharge time, and life expectancy of the battery. My understanding of thermodynamics is minimal at best, but I’ve taken to believe that heat and humidity tend to make batteries last a shorter amount of time than the cooler, dryer weather of say, Chicago.


37 posted on 04/24/2019 12:13:16 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: ro_dreaming

First, let me assure you that northern Illinois can have excess humidity. OK, not like Houston.

As far as temperature, if you are comfortable, your battery is also happy. Yes, they can deal with 140F, but like most of us, performance drops.

My USMC son saw it 130F in Iraq, and they moved slowly.

I’ve never seen anything about battery performance in high humidity?


38 posted on 04/24/2019 1:19:23 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I'm probably just thinking of terms of here in Houston, when the weather changes (USUALLY from hot/humud to cold/dry) that seems to be when many car batteries tend to "die".

And, yeah, Houston's humidity in summer is honestly like Robin Williams said in "Good Morning, Vietnam!"...



00:13:55 Roosevelt, what town are you stationed in?. "I'm stationed in Poontang."

00:13:58 Well, thank you, Roosevelt. What's the weather like out there?

00:14:00 "It's hot. Damn hot! Real hot!

00:14:02 Hottest things is my shorts. I could cook things in it. A little crotch pot cooking."

00:14:06 Well, can you tell me what it feels like. "Fool, it's hot! I told you again!


39 posted on 04/25/2019 4:22:01 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks DUMBGRUNT. Ford was up $1.02 on Friday.

40 posted on 04/27/2019 10:03:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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