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Funding for Chesapeake Bay

Posted on 03/13/2019 7:15:21 PM PDT by Jamestown1630

I believe that I've found the first thing that President Trump is reportedly doing, with which I disagree.

When the Europeans came to what they decided to call 'America', the Chesapeake Bay was an incredibly fertile food source.

After the Industrial Revolution, the bay gradually declined, until in the 1970s, farmers there told me that the bay grasses - essential to the lives of all the fish and shellfish life - were mostly gone.

The Chesapeake Bay Program has done a great deal of good and has achieved progress in helping to bring the Bay back.

Mr. Trump, please don't de-fund this project. I'm not a great fan of the EPA, but some environmental projects are useful and important.

www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/environment/bs-md-trump-budget-chesapeake-bay-20190311-story


TOPICS: Agriculture; Business/Economy; Local News; Science
KEYWORDS: chesapeakebayproject; funding; trump
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1 posted on 03/13/2019 7:15:21 PM PDT by Jamestown1630
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To: Jamestown1630
“I believe that I've found the first thing that President Trump is reportedly doing, with which I disagree.”

How nice of you to share.

Was your search arduous?

2 posted on 03/13/2019 7:23:59 PM PDT by coaster123 (Bring back the curtsy. - If one is alive one is privileged.)
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Since I live on the waterfront of the Chesapeake, I agree that some funding should be used... However not from the EPA...

MD and VA should just transfer all the money being spent on welfare for the illegal aliens to the upkeep of the Chesapeake...

Also, excellent fishing (and the grasses supporting it) has returned to the Bay between Baltimore and the mouth of Susquehanna river...

3 posted on 03/13/2019 7:28:04 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Jamestown1630

Anything like the “Clean Water Act” people who come to my door every year...for 25 years..and STILL want money? At this point, I am boggled that they have the audacity.


4 posted on 03/13/2019 7:28:23 PM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: Jamestown1630

There’s PLENTY of bad tasting crab in that bay. Many, many millions of crabs.

You can’t get the meat out of them without smearing it with crab poo.

I see no reason for federal funding.


5 posted on 03/13/2019 7:29:06 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Mmmmmmmm crab poo


6 posted on 03/13/2019 7:36:48 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: coaster123

I don’t need to search; I’ve been watching.

For the record, I didn’t like a certain off-the cuff comment that he made at one point to a group of policemen; and I don’t think he should have brought his daughter and SIL into the administration - that only makes for controversy and accusations of nepotism.

And I don’t want to see my Bay die from the arbitrary disbanding of a program that has done a lot of good.

Otherwise, I’m good with everything President Trump has done so far.

You?


7 posted on 03/13/2019 7:37:27 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

They turn islands into bird sanctuaries and then complain about the increase in nitrogen on septic systems 90 miles away... really?


8 posted on 03/13/2019 7:38:54 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: teeman8r

Can you deny that the Bay is doing better now than it was twenty or thirty years ago?

It would be interesting to hear from some Maryland watermen.


9 posted on 03/13/2019 7:44:02 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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I live near the bay, but I’m not a native and don’t really know all the history. I was going to mention the grasses in the flats. Big sign of health.

Dumping limitless money is useless. This is a good move


10 posted on 03/13/2019 7:49:18 PM PDT by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: Jamestown1630

” I’m not a great fan of the EPA, but some environmental projects are useful and important.”

Although I don’t know all the facts in this particular case, I don’t have any disagreement with your statement.


11 posted on 03/13/2019 7:49:22 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: ConservativeMind
There’s PLENTY of bad tasting crab in that bay.

You sir, are a savage. Crab poo? Do you mean the "mustard?"

12 posted on 03/13/2019 7:50:56 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: IndispensableDestiny

LOL!


13 posted on 03/13/2019 7:53:41 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

are you’re talking about the Chesapeake Bay Foundation?

these guys have been at it for 50 years with a budget of millions (see pg 4 below). And they need government money?

https://www.cbf.org/document-library/financial-documents/2017-audited-financial-statement.pdf


14 posted on 03/13/2019 8:04:18 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: cyclotic

There isn’t ‘limitless money’ from the Feds going into the Bay. Its a long-term project that has done a lot of good.

I don’t know how the Great God Government figures these things out; but there should be a way that funding is directed toward particular projects, based on the projects’ merits - not just tons of money given to an agency which, in turn, does whatever it (often politically) WANTS to do with the money.


15 posted on 03/13/2019 8:08:31 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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Does the money actually go to real "shovel ready" projects?

My guess is that 99% of the funds go to universities and pointy headed intellectuals to pay for "studies" and "grants" with titles like "The Effects of Global Warming on the Chesapeake Bay". You know, these are the kind of "studies" that have already reached a conclusion before they are even conducted.
 

16 posted on 03/13/2019 8:09:33 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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No. The Chesapeake Bay Foundation and the Chesapeake Bay Program are different animals.


17 posted on 03/13/2019 8:12:38 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I think you’re letting ideology get ahead of your thoughtfulness.

If it were not for many ‘pointy-headed intellectuals’, you probably wouldn’t be alive today; and if you were, you’d be living in a tree without electricity, a flushing toilet, or any chance of an antibiotic if you became ill :-)


18 posted on 03/13/2019 8:17:35 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: SuperLuminal

The breeding stock of rockfish is not doing great. This isn’t just from local overfishing, it is a whole Northeast coast issue. More restrictions will probably be coming. The trophy rockfish, who are female and can lay millions of eggs, are being overfished during the Spring season in the bay. The last few trophy seasons have not been good. I believe that there should be a slot limit for rockfish in the bay. Let the old fish go to breed. Keep the smaller, better tasting fish between 24-36 inches.

The bay grasses in the Tanger Sound are really coming back, but what the bay is really missing are the historic oyster reefs. Not the piles of shell that they currently try and grow spat on and call reefs, but actual 3 dimensional reefs. The oyster dredgers have killed all of these reefs and they probably are not coming back any time soon.

Finally, all of the rain this region has received in the past year has been horrible for the bay. Tons of silt behind the Conowingo Dam has been flowing into the bay and probably killing the grasses in the Northern half. We will see this summer.


19 posted on 03/13/2019 8:20:58 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: SuperLuminal

The Chesapeake Bay is downstream from something in Pennsylvania. I think they should be included in funding your reclamation project.


20 posted on 03/13/2019 8:22:20 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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