Q Anon: 12/18/18 Trust Trump's Plan

To: stars & stripes forever

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-real-story-of-the-flynn-hearing-11545264704

The Real Story of the Flynn Hearing by Michael Ledeen
Dec. 19, 2018

The dramatic Tuesday hearing for former national security adviser Mike Flynn didn’t produce a sentence. Instead, Judge Emmet Sullivan gave Mr. Flynn a delay to reconsider his options. I was in the courtroom, and my reading of Judge Sullivan’s treatment of Mr. Flynn (with whom I co-wrote a 2016 book) was rather different from what most reporters have said and written.

Judge Sullivan repeatedly invited Mr. Flynn to reconsider his guilty plea on a charge of lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Judge Sullivan stressed that he had not presided over earlier proceedings in the case and that he was prepared to have Mr. Flynn change his plea or even ask for a dismissal of charges. At times, the judge seemed to implore Mr. Flynn to reopen the deal he made with special counsel Robert Mueller, implying that there was reason to believe his guilty plea had been wrongfully arranged.

Mr. Flynn wasn’t interested. Over and over he told Judge Sullivan that he was comfortable with his confession, did not wish to have it reconsidered, and wanted the judge to pronounce sentence. But Judge Sullivan continued unsuccessfully to invite a change in Mr. Flynn’s plea.

The discussion then shifted to whether the sentence should include jail time—which prosecutors had recommended against. Mr. Flynn’s lawyers stressed that he had fully cooperated with Mr. Mueller, and—as the special counsel’s written statements have reiterated—he remained cooperative. That could include testifying against Mr. Flynn’s former business associates in a case from Virginia involving the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

Judge Sullivan then invited Mr. Flynn to ask for a sentencing delay until his potential role in the Virginia case was resolved, since it might add to the list of cooperative actions that could mitigate the sentence. Mr. Flynn’s lawyers accepted the offer. Later in the day, Judge Sullivan asked Mr. Flynn to surrender his passport and remain in the Washington area so the whole matter can be reopened anytime.

It was a bizarre situation. Judge Sullivan clearly did not wish to pass sentence, and he warned Mr. Flynn that the punishment could be greater than the “low end” the prosecutors and defense lawyers alike were seeking and that Mr. Flynn clearly wanted, thereby ending two years of misery.

One way or another, Mr. Flynn faces a gloomy future. Either he has to revisit the plea—perhaps exposing his son to hostile action from the special counsel, and certainly increasing his legal costs—or insist on sentencing, about which Judge Sullivan was hardly encouraging, whatever happens in the Virginia case. Judge Sullivan asked a prosecutor if Mr. Flynn’s behavior might “have risen to the level of treasonous activity”—although the prosecutor replied “that was not something that we were considering in terms of charging the defendant” and the judge later clarified that “I wasn’t suggesting he’s committed treason” and “I’ve never presided over a treasonous offense and couldn’t tell you what the elements are anyway.”

As I understood it, Judge Sullivan was warning Mr. Flynn that the sentence might take such nasty suspicions into account, to Mr. Flynn’s detriment. I think the judge was frustrated at his failure to persuade Mr. Flynn to reconsider his plea: If Mr. Flynn won’t fight, Judge Sullivan won’t do it for him. So it’s Mr. Flynn who must decide between two unattractive options.

The case drags on, as do so many special-prosecutor cases. I had six years of nastiness from independent counsel Lawrence Walsh in the Iran-Contra affair. The government was ultimately ordered to cover my legal costs—but again, it took six years. I entirely understand Mr. Flynn’s wish to put this behind him, and this week’s drama must have infuriated him. There he was, one short step—sentencing—from the finish line. Now who knows? There’s no time limit, Mr. Mueller has an unlimited budget and a big, enthusiastic staff. Mr. Flynn’s lawyers surely told him what Washington lawyers invariably tell their clients: Play the game, get it over with. He did—and it wasn’t good enough for Judge Sullivan.

I do not believe Mr. Flynn lied to the FBI. I think he lied when he made his deal with Mr. Mueller, and his confession was a false one. The president can provide clarity by releasing all relevant documents.

Mr. Ledeen is a scholar at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

581 posted on 12/19/2018 8:19:34 PM PST by bitt (new q thread)

"Besides I have it on good authority he like Pretzels and Beer"

My Santa preferred chips and Pepsi.

582 posted on 12/19/2018 8:20:27 PM PST by defconw (WWG1WGA! MAGA)

Interesting Nein Revolt article. Apparently there was some Jr Senator doing a Q&A on one of the chan’s. Most of it is simple stuf, lining up with what we are all expecting, then he drops an interesting nugget that appears to have been fact checked. YMMV

He mentions that the entire floor of a federal courthouse was cleared to move a case from an Article 3 court to an Article 1 court. Apparently that sometimes means military.

https://www.neonrevolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/firefox_2018-12-16_21-09-02.png

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/12/17/jrsenatoranon-heralds-legal-revelations-for-qresearchers-advent-of-the-qmarch-qanon-greatawakening-neonrevolt/

583 posted on 12/19/2018 8:20:38 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)

I like how you think!

584 posted on 12/19/2018 8:23:50 PM PST by defconw (WWG1WGA! MAGA)

Buckhead!!!!! Good times!

YES. These threads remind me of those days!

585 posted on 12/19/2018 8:24:26 PM PST by M. Thatcher

To: BlueMondaySkipper

Very interesting, thanQ for reportage. There were articles about the clearing of the fed courthouse floor and various speculations and nothing factual.

I wonder what case.

586 posted on 12/19/2018 8:26:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations)

"Is today D Day? What is D Day? Next June? Errrrr!"
Just a guess, but some where between 1 January and 4 January 2019. Just my guess.

I think it's today.

Signed by Q+ makes it a standout.

(In my opinion Q+ is very stable.)

587 posted on 12/19/2018 8:27:14 PM PST by M. Thatcher

588 posted on 12/19/2018 8:27:39 PM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! MAGA!)

Mr. Ledeen needs to read up on Q.

589 posted on 12/19/2018 8:28:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations)

Praying Gen. Flynn will come out on top of this sham “investigation”

590 posted on 12/19/2018 8:29:28 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm ( 32:12))

To: Larry - Moe and Curly

"If the EO for military tribunals doesn’t take effect until Jan 1, can it be used to proceed against anyone arrested between now and then?"

What a freaking awesome question! I am not a lawfag though. :(

591 posted on 12/19/2018 8:29:49 PM PST by defconw (WWG1WGA! MAGA)

I remember you from 2005, Katrina, actually, always enjoyed your ascerbic writing. Thought you were Rush at one time ;)

592 posted on 12/19/2018 8:30:45 PM PST by txhurl (whoa)

To: WildHighlander57; HarleyLady27; bitt; TEXOKIE

“””This is yuuuuge:

“...Third, Congressman Gowdy reminded anyone who is reading the transcript that President Obama had actually been sending emails back and forth with Hillary Clinton on their private email accounts, which would suggest that he knew already that there had been some kind of open and unclassified server available to Hillary Clinton that might have had classified information on it....” “””

I had read somewhere that since Hussein had knowledge of and had used HRC’s private email system that she could argue in her defense that she had the tacit approval of the POTUS to do so.

Now I don’t know if that’s even remotely true and would seem the least of evils as compared to selling US secrets and CF activity “quid pro quo” donations while Sec of State that may have gone across her servers and devices.

593 posted on 12/19/2018 8:33:33 PM PST by haffast (Alternate universes held together by porridge.)

To: Spitzensparkin1

Blood. Sacrifice. Dispose of like kitchen waste.

The Romans used blood in their cement too. These people are sick, pure evil. Could they dispose of people and the blood and mix it right into the concrete steps we walk on or in the very foundations our monuments? Think about that possibility when we hear about cement and concrete.

Back digging... getting dark down here...

SS1

594 posted on 12/19/2018 8:35:00 PM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! MAGA!)

Wall Funding:

$907,025 now! We'll see $1M in a few minutes at this rate. Fun to watch!

$1,956,030 of $1.0B goal

Raised by 33,348 people in 3 days

Put on a $1 Mill

Outstanding.

595 posted on 12/19/2018 8:35:33 PM PST by spokeshave2 (https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall.... $562,680 of $1.0B goal by 9,133 people in 2 days)

To: Spitzensparkin1

Putting Bone in Bone china works; I doubt it does in large-scale cement.

596 posted on 12/19/2018 8:38:47 PM PST by txhurl (whoa)

In repsonse to the replies from little jeremiah, haffast, TrueFact, and TheConservativeParty, the following table was created. Hope this can be a good resource for others to share with Q rookies.
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BEAUTIFUL table of goodies, tang-soo. Would you be willing to stash that piece of art in your profile and then I could link it to the main table as “Boot Camp” (or whatever term you prefer? LOVE IT! :)

597 posted on 12/19/2018 8:39:06 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)

To: Unrepentant VN Vet

598 posted on 12/19/2018 8:43:05 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (...against all enemies, foreign or domestic...)

599 posted on 12/19/2018 8:46:23 PM PST by Bigg Red (The USA news industry, the MSM-13, takes a machete to the truth. {h/t TigersEye})

Thanks haffast, that works! Also, I should have added JockManning to the list of contributors.

600 posted on 12/19/2018 8:47:02 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)

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