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Syria Shoots Down a Russian Military Plane, and Moscow Blames Israel
NY Times ^ | September 18, 2018 | Mike Ives

Posted on 09/18/2018 4:47:59 AM PDT by C19fan

Syrian antiaircraft missiles shot down a Russian military aircraft carrying 15 service members off the Syrian coast Monday night, the Russian Defense Ministry said. Moscow angrily blamed the Israeli military for what appeared to be a case of friendly fire, saying the Iraelis were conducting air raids in the area and had given only a minute’s warning, too little for the Il-20 surveillance plane to fly out of harm’s way.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: friendlyfire; friendslikethese; incompetence; latakia; putinsbuttboys; russia; syria
Russia blaming Jews for problems is nothing new.
1 posted on 09/18/2018 4:47:59 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

The Russian Ministry of Defense says they ‘detected’ the milliles coming from French warships in the Mediterranean. I assume in 2018 they have the technology to do that.

What evidence is there that Syria is responsible?

More fake news.


2 posted on 09/18/2018 4:53:09 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: C19fan
Iraelis were conducting air raids in the area and had given only a minute’s warning

That seems rather generous if you ask me.

No warning gives the attacking aircrews a better chance of success.

3 posted on 09/18/2018 4:53:37 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: C19fan

Unless they’re talking about the Russian spy plane.


4 posted on 09/18/2018 4:54:30 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: grobdriver

I believe international law or some international agreement calls for much more advanced notice.

If Russia, China, Iran, etc., did that to us you would be up in arms, correct?


5 posted on 09/18/2018 4:57:21 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
If Russia, China, Iran, etc., did that to us you would be up in arms, correct?

Why, no.

If we were operating in a war zone (i.e. close enough to the action for SAMs to get to us) then we assume the risk of taking a hit.

I am unaware of any international agreements for a party in a conflict to telegraph their punches to anyone.

6 posted on 09/18/2018 5:41:11 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: grobdriver

Hague Regulations, dating back to the 1800s. However they make exception for surprise attacks.


7 posted on 09/18/2018 6:13:49 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: grobdriver

Also mot sure if Israel ever signed on.


8 posted on 09/18/2018 6:14:33 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: grobdriver

The Israeli’s are too nice.

A one minute warning give people enough time to run for their lives.

Or they can choose to remain and fire missiles back...


9 posted on 09/18/2018 6:23:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: grobdriver

I’ll try to check for the both of our edification.

I’m pretty sure I read some time ago that we (USA) gave Russia notice we were going to bomb somewhere (Syria I think) and we didn’t want to have allies or neutral parties part of the collateral damage.

I think it is at least an accepted courtesy to warn those you do not want to be in harms way, for whatever reason.


10 posted on 09/18/2018 8:55:18 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Color me cynical, but I would expect that any raid warning given to Russia would be in the Syrian air defense inbox within minutes.

Seems Israel agrees...

11 posted on 09/19/2018 4:24:04 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: grobdriver

Then why give any warning at all?


12 posted on 09/19/2018 4:50:21 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Then why give any warning at all?

Exactly!

See post #3.

13 posted on 09/19/2018 5:23:39 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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