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USS Pueblo [captivity of U.S. Navy ship and her 83 crew members]
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Posted on 07/27/2018 6:51:26 AM PDT by daniel1212

USS Pueblo (AGER-2) is a Banner-class environmental research ship, attached to Navy intelligence as a spy ship, which was attacked and captured by North Korean forces on 23 January 1968, in what is known today as the "Pueblo incident" or alternatively, as the "Pueblo crisis". ..

Pueblo, still held by North Korea today, officially remains a commissioned vessel of the United States Navy.[3] Since early 2013, the ship has been moored along the Potong River in Pyongyang, and used there as a museum ship at the Pyongyang Victorious War Museum.[4] Pueblo is the only ship of the U.S. Navy still on the commissioned roster currently being held captive.[5] ...

On 5 January 1968, Pueblo left U.S. Navy base Yokosuka, Japan, in transit to the U.S. naval base at Sasebo, Japan; from there she left on 11 January 1968, headed northward through the Tsushima Strait into the Sea of Japan. She left with specific orders to intercept and conduct surveillance of Soviet Navy activity in the Tsushima Strait and to gather signal and electronic intelligence from North Korea.[8]...

According to the American account, the following day, 23 January, Pueblo was approached by a submarine chaser and her nationality was challenged; Pueblo responded by raising the U.S. flag. The North Korean vessel then ordered Pueblo to stand down or be fired upon. Pueblo attempted to maneuver away, but was considerably slower than the submarine chaser. Several warning shots were fired. Additionally, three torpedo boats appeared on the horizon and then joined in the chase and subsequent attack.[11]

The attackers were soon joined by two MiG-21 fighters. A fourth torpedo boat and a second submarine chaser appeared on the horizon a short time later. The ammunition on Pueblo was stored belowdecks, and her machine guns were wrapped in cold weather tarpaulins. The machine guns were unmanned, and no attempt was made to man them....

The North Korean vessels attempted to board Pueblo, but she was maneuvered to prevent this for over two hours. A submarine chaser then opened fire with a 57 mm cannon, killing one member of the crew. The smaller vessels fired machine guns into Pueblo, which then signaled compliance and began destroying sensitive material. The volume of material on board was so great that it was impossible to destroy it all...

Pueblo followed the North Korean vessels as ordered, but then stopped immediately outside North Korean waters. She was again fired upon, and a sailor, fireman Duane Hodges, was killed. The ship was finally boarded at 05:55 UTC (2:55 pm local)[13] by men from a torpedo boat and a submarine chaser. Crew members had their hands tied and were blindfolded, beaten, and prodded with bayonets.

Radio contact between Pueblo and the Naval Security Group in Kamiseya, Japan, had been ongoing during the incident. As a result, Seventh Fleet command was fully aware of Pueblo's situation. Air cover was promised but never arrived. The Fifth Air Force had no aircraft on strip alert, and estimated a two to three-hour delay in launching aircraft. USS Enterprise was located 510 nautical miles (940 km) south of Pueblo, yet her four F-4B aircraft on alert were not equipped for an air-to-surface engagement. Enterprise's captain estimated that 1.5 hours (90 minutes) were required to get the converted aircraft into the air.[11]

Pueblo was taken into port at Wonsan and the crew was moved twice to prisoner of war (POW) camps. The crew reported upon release that they were starved and regularly tortured while in North Korean custody. This treatment allegedly turned worse[22] when the North Koreans realized that crewmen were secretly giving them "the finger" in staged propaganda photos.[23]

Commander Lloyd M. Bucher was psychologically tortured, such as being put through a mock firing squad in an effort to make him confess. Eventually the North Koreans threatened to execute his men in front of him, and Bucher relented and agreed to "confess to his and the crew's transgression." Bucher wrote the confession since a "confession" by definition needed to be written by the confessor himself. They verified the meaning of what he wrote, but failed to catch the pun when he said "We paean the DPRK [North Korea]. We paean their great leader Kim Il Sung".[24][25] (Bucher pronounced "paean" as "pee on.")[26]

Negotiations for the release of the crew took place at Panmunjom. At the same time, U.S. officials were concerned with conciliating the South Koreans, who expressed discontent about being left out of the negotiations..

Ericson and George Newman, the Deputy Chief of Mission in Seoul, wrote a telegram for the State Department in February 1968, predicting how the negotiations would play out:

What we said in effect was this: If you are going to do this thing at Panmunjom, and if your sole objective is to get the crew back, you will be playing into North Korea's hands and the negotiations will follow a clear and inevitable path. You are going to be asked to sign a document that the North Koreans will have drafted. They will brook no changes. It will set forth their point of view and require you to confess to everything they accuse you of... If you allow them to, they will take as much time as they feel they need to squeeze every damn thing they can get out of this situation in terms of their propaganda goals, and they will try to exploit this situation to drive a wedge between the U.S. and the ROK. Then when they feel they have accomplished all they can, and when we have agreed to sign their document of confession and apology, they will return the crew. They will not return the ship. This is the way it is going to be because this is the way it has always been.[27]

Following an apology, a written admission by the U.S. that Pueblo had been spying, and an assurance that the U.S. would not spy in the future, the North Korean government decided to release the 82 remaining crew members [after 11-months], although the written apology was preceded by an oral statement that it was done only to secure the release.[28]

Reverse engineering of communications devices on Pueblo allowed the North Koreans to share knowledge with the Soviet Union that led to the replication of those communications devices. This allowed the two nations access to the US Navy's communication systems until the late 1980s when the US Navy revised those systems. The seizure of Pueblo followed soon after US Navy warrant officer John Anthony Walker introduced himself to Soviet authorities, setting up the Walker spy ring. It has been argued that the seizure of Pueblo was executed specifically to capture the encryption devices aboard. Without them, it was difficult for the Soviets to make full use of Walker's information.[33][34][35]

Documents released from National Archives of Romania suggest it was the Chinese rather than the Soviets who actively encouraged the reopening of hostilities in Korea during 1968, promising North Korea vast material support should hostilities in Korea resume.[21] Together with Blue House Raid, the Pueblo incident turned out to be part of an increasing divergence between the Soviet leadership and North Korea. Fostering a resumption of hostilities in Korea, allegedly, was seen in Beijing as a way to mend relations between North Korea and China, and pull North Korea back in the Chinese sphere of influence in the context of the Sino-Soviet split. After the (then secret) diplomatic efforts of the Soviets to have the American crew released fell on deaf ears in Pyongyang, Leonid Brezhnev publicly denounced North Korea's actions at the 8th plenary session of the 23rd Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.[21] In contrast, the Chinese (state controlled) press published declarations supportive of North Korea's actions in the Pueblo incident.[36]

Furthermore, Soviet archives reveal that the Soviet leadership was particularly displeased that North Korean leader Kim Il-sung had contradicted the assurances he previously gave Moscow that he would avoid a military escalation in Korea. Previously secret documents suggest the Soviets were surprised by the Pueblo incident, first learning of it in the press. The same documents reveal that the North Koreans also kept the Soviets completely in the dark regarding ongoing negotiations with the Americans for the crew's release, which was another bone of contention.

...Brezhnev, the Soviet leader made it clear that they were not willing to go to war with the United States, but agreed to an increase in subsidies for North Korea, which did happen in subsequent years.[38]:

The seizure of the U.S. Navy ship and her 83 crew members, one of whom was killed in the attack, came less than a week after President Lyndon B. Johnson's State of the Union address to the United States Congress, a week before the start of the Tet Offensive in South Vietnam during the Vietnam War, and three days after 31 men of North Korea's KPA Unit 124 had crossed the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) and killed 26 South Koreans in an attempt to attack the South Korean Blue House (executive mansion) in the capital Seoul.


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These are restructured excerpts from the long article .

Once again a enemy was underestimated, and with the US unprepared for what a God-less malicious deceptive military government would inevitably do. While the severely tortured men were released after 11 months, the ship remains in enemy hands,

From the article, Pueblo remains the second-oldest commissioned ship in the U.S. Navy, behind USS Constitution ("Old Ironsides"). Pueblo is one of only a few American ships to have been captured since the wars in Tripoli.

1 posted on 07/27/2018 6:51:26 AM PDT by daniel1212
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“Air cover was promised but never arrived. The Fifth Air Force had no aircraft on strip alert, and estimated a two to three-hour delay in launching aircraft.”

Always caught with our pants down.


2 posted on 07/27/2018 6:57:14 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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Air cover was promised but never arrived..

I guess I never understood this act of war and no response.

3 posted on 07/27/2018 6:57:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: daniel1212

Happened under LBJ, Democrat. Typical cowardly Democrat.


4 posted on 07/27/2018 7:00:26 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: daniel1212

My wife watched the original Manchurian Candidate for the first time, and now says she understands why the government is so effed-up.

Nothing has changed!


5 posted on 07/27/2018 7:01:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: daniel1212

Sigint / Photint / Elint devices of all kinds, including ships, need to self-destruct if necessary.

And maybe these triggers need to be remote, for instance on low-frequency worldwide bands or by satellite, if necessary.

We’ve seen this over and over again, as many Freepers know well.

It is better to lose a boat, a plane, or even a pilot from time to time than... Well, you know.


6 posted on 07/27/2018 7:08:36 AM PDT by golux
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Democrats-When air support is needed yet denied and you let your heroes burn, die, or be taken prisoner, you can count on them.


7 posted on 07/27/2018 7:13:53 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: vladimir998

This sentence reminded me of Ben-Ghazi and the Bay of Pigs incidents.

It is almost as if the US command/White House never intended to prevent the capture of the Pueblo, and the crew were only collateral damage.


8 posted on 07/27/2018 7:14:00 AM PDT by Glennb51
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“From the article, Pueblo remains the second-oldest commissioned ship in the U.S. Navy, behind USS Constitution (”Old Ironsides”)”

I believe that the USCGC Eagle was put into service three years earlier (’42 vs ‘45) and the Eagle is active. I saw her sail into Seattle about eight years ago.

Quite a sight to behold!


9 posted on 07/27/2018 7:16:04 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: daniel1212

I apologize for leaving off the link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_(WIX-327)

BTW, we stole her from Germany during WWII!


10 posted on 07/27/2018 7:18:51 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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Should’a nuked Pyongyang then...


11 posted on 07/27/2018 7:20:28 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: New Perspective
Democrats-When air support is needed yet denied and you let your heroes burn, die, or be taken prisoner, you can count on them.

Twas more bluster than effect:

There was dissent among government officials in the United States, regarding how to handle the situation. Congressman Mendel Rivers suggested that President Johnson issue an ultimatum for the return of Pueblo on penalty of nuclear attack, while Senator Gale McGee said the United States should wait for more information and not make "spasmodic response[s] to aggravating incidents".[15] According to Horace Busby, Special Assistant to President Johnson, the president's "reaction to the hostage taking was to work very hard here to keep down any demands for retaliation or any other attacks upon North Koreans", worried that rhetoric might result in the hostages being killed.[16]

The day following the incident on Wednesday 24 January 1968, following extensive cabinet meetings Washington decided upon that their initial response should be to:

a) Deploy air and naval forces to the immediate area.

b) Make reconnaissance flights over the location of the Pueblo.

c) Call up military reserves and extending terms of military service.

d) Protest the incident within framework of the United Nations

e) President Johnson should personally cable Soviet Premier Alexei Kosygin.[17][18][19][20]

Although American officials at the time assumed the seizure of Pueblo had been directed by the Soviet Union, it has emerged in recent years that North Korea acted alone and the incident actually harmed North Korea's relations with most of the Eastern Bloc.[21]

On 23 December 1968, the crew was taken by buses to the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) border with South Korea and ordered to walk south one by one across the "Bridge of No Return". Exactly eleven months after being taken prisoner, the Captain led the long line of crewmen, followed at the end by the Executive Officer, Lieutenant Ed Murphy, the last man across the bridge,[29] the U.S. then verbally retracted the ransom admission, apology, and assurance. Meanwhile, the North Koreans blanked out the paragraph above the signature which read: "and this hereby receipts for eighty two crewmen and one corpse".[clarification needed]

Bucher and all the officers and crew subsequently appeared before a Navy Court of Inquiry. A court-martial was recommended for Bucher and the Officer in Charge of the Research Department, Lieutenant Steve Harris for surrendering without a fight and for failing to destroy classified material, but the Secretary of the Navy, John Chafee, rejected the recommendation, stating, "They have suffered enough." Commander Bucher was never found guilty of any indiscretions and continued his Navy career until retirement.[30]

In 1970, Bucher published an autobiographical account of the USS Pueblo incident entitled Bucher: My Story.[31] Bucher died in San Diego on 28 January 2004, at the age of 76. James Kell, a former sailor under his command, suggested that the injuries suffered by Bucher during his time in North Korea contributed to his death.[32]

On 23 January 1968 North Korean patrol boats supported by two Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 fighters captured the USS Pueblo northeast of the North Korean island of Ung-do.[1] The seizure of the Pueblo led to President Lyndon Johnson ordering a show of force with a massive deployment of U.S. air and navy assets to Korea. The airlift and deployment of 200+ aircraft was code named Operation Combat Fox[2] while the deployment of six aircraft carriers plus support vessels was code named Operation Formation Star.[3] The operations were supported by the partial mobilization of reservists for the first time since the Cuban Missile Crisis.[3] CIA A-12 Oxcart reconnaissance overflights over North Korea were used to monitor a feared retaliatory mobilization of North Korean forces and when these flights revealed no mobilization or large scale deployments by North Korean forces, Operation Combat Fox forces were stood down.[4]

Soviet response Publicly, the Soviet Union responded by augmenting their naval forces in the Pacific and by sending a letter to the US president Lyndon B. Johnson on 3 February 1968 demanding that the United States scale back their build-up in the Sea of Japan. Privately however, Alexei Kosygin gave assurances to the US ambassador in Moscow (Llewellyn Thompson) on 6 February 1968 that the Soviet Union had no intention to go to war over Kim Il Sung's provocation, as a response to this overture, Lyndon Johnson agreed to withdraw one unnamed vessel "somewhat southward". This exchange enabled Brezhnev to make a subsequent face-saving statement to the 23rd Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union that the Soviet letter was answered by the Americans by withdrawing the USS Enterprise from DPRK's shores.[5] - https://wikivividly.com/wiki/Operation_Combat_Fox

12 posted on 07/27/2018 7:20:37 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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“Previously secret documents suggest the Soviets were surprised by the Pueblo incident, first learning of it in the press...?”

Gee...Just like Barky?


13 posted on 07/27/2018 7:24:22 AM PDT by Does so (No mention of "Brown Shirts" on this page?)
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And recently, the capture of American Sailors by Iranian boats. Still, don't understand how that happened and why the Navy didn't go full on with Iran. But that happened under the bowing, apologizing Obama CIC.

Sailors in the US Navy are just as much warriors as any Marine or Army grunt. I don't understand why they gave up without a fight. So what if they strayed into Iranian waters, they signed up to give all. What's happened to my Navy?

14 posted on 07/27/2018 7:32:06 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/11/uss-pueblo-still-held-north-korea-trump-kim-jong-u/


15 posted on 07/27/2018 7:35:41 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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The State Department kept the USAF from sending aircraft from Japan which was close. General McKee in spite of State Department objections sent fighters from Okinawa to the Pueblo with orders to blow the NORKs out of the water if they could get to the Pueblo before it was in the NORK harbor. The Navy had closer aircraft from carriers but did not buck the State Department orders.
16 posted on 07/27/2018 7:40:11 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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It should be logical that a nation’s warships should be armed and ready to fight at all times. Our Navy seems to have a problem in this regard.


17 posted on 07/27/2018 7:45:06 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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Just find it weird that something that happened 50 years ago really only seems like 10 or 15. Getting old really skews time perception.


18 posted on 07/27/2018 7:46:41 AM PDT by joesbucks
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I was on the Enterprise when that happened. We sailed up there at high speed, surrounded by thirty or so ships that I could see, and probably more around and under us. Several of our planes were loaded with nukes in the hangar bay, which was unusual because weps always loaded only on flight deck.


19 posted on 07/27/2018 7:53:20 AM PDT by cvan65 vet
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Since early 2013, the ship has been moored along the Potong River in Pyongyang

It had been previously docked on the east coast of North Korea. How were they able to sail it around South Korea--under our satellites and reconnaissance aircraft--without being detected? Or did the Obama administration let them do it?

20 posted on 07/27/2018 7:56:59 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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