Posted on 06/09/2018 9:19:28 AM PDT by BBell
Yes! The period after Shield/Storm was good but it was short lived and petered quickly. The VA did not even want to help the vets who were possibly poisoned but that is a whole nother story.
Ok. I should have added minus the noise. I was only on the flight line for embark/debark so the smell never bothered me but the was heard for miles.
Your grass in an inch too high and your lawn is not edged properly per base ordnance XXX.XXX.XXX apendix YY.YY. You have 24 hour to fix it or we will begin the process to remove you from the premises.
Mission accomplished, VA.
11% do their twenty.
Open bay barracks have been out since the mid 1970's. The last place to have them was Fort Irwin when it was reopened and that was temporary.
I wasn't being sarcastic. I loved the noise and smells of SAC and the fight for freedom.
When I left my last SAC base and came to the DC area it took me a long time to adjust to the lack of noise and the great smell from the flightline. I still miss it to this day. Even my wife had trouble getting to sleep without that noise and she even admitted to loving the smell of burning jet fuel.
I saw enough sick gulf war vets to realize it was not “mass hysteria”. That was the VA party line at the time. How they were poisoned is not clear. One guy swore it was the pills they were forced to take. He was fine but he never took his. He either avoided being present or hid the pill under his tongue. He was a backwoods hillbilly from the hills of central Pa. but he wasn’t stupid by no means.
Ya know what the smell of diesel smoke reminds me of, that smell similar to a truck stop parking lot? Being in the well deck when they were firing up the vehicles. It was vented well but it still stunk heavily. That jet fuel smoke smell reminds me of waiting on our Air Force transport. The Air force used Air Force time that us Marines could never quite understand. It usually was 4 to 12 hours behind our time but it varied greatly, with some times being come back tomorrow time after a 12 hour wait time. Now this was only transport planes. I don’t know about the rest.
I enjoyed it because of the guys who were there with me. Best guys one could ever hang out with, plus there was no commuting in traffic LOL
I went through Ft.Bliss, Ft. McClellan, and Ft. Benning training bases and all were open bay.
Interesting tidbit about Ft. Irwin. I’m happy to have dodged
that bullet along with the Ft. Polk JTC experience. I wonder which had the highest suckage factor....
It is still way out in the middle of no where.
I wonder if they have 4 AM alerts to pack everything up and be ready to roll out the gate by 6 AM.
Better yet, turn everyone out for some PT at 6 AM every day. When I got out of the military, that crap ENDED.
MAC, now AMC (I think), seemed to always run on their own schedule.
I was always in SAC and on time meant ON TIME. If an aircraft had a mission take off time of 0900 the plane would taxi to the end of the runway, countdown the seconds and release brakes exactly at 0900. Mission planning was precise and it was mandatory everybody adhered to the exact timing...every day.
The only times things went haywire was when something broke and then many times heads rolled.
Military schmilitary—this is a nice model in general.
Going back and forth from CONUS as a unit was good.
Thinking about it, it was when we were on the tarmac with all our personal military gear waiting to load that it was bad. If we were in a terminal it was much better. Go figure.
It is a nice gesture. If it works well I hope they try it some more.
I think the aircrews didn't appreciate you Marines licking the windows! :-) (Just a joke. Not intended to denigrate you. My soon to be Son-In-Law is a Marine Reserve)
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