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1 posted on 06/01/2018 8:37:03 AM PDT by rey
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My dog.

I’ve been trying for close to a week now to get a vet appointment for her.

Apparently we’ve screwed that up just as badly as we’ve screwed up human health care.


2 posted on 06/01/2018 8:39:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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He did get rid of the penalty for not having insurance beginning with tax year 2018. (You haven’t done your 2018 taxes yet.)

ML/NJ


3 posted on 06/01/2018 8:41:08 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Insurance and health care are two different things.

What you’re discussing is the affordability of insurance.


4 posted on 06/01/2018 8:41:11 AM PDT by fruser1
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February 16, 2017

The U.S. Internal Revenue Service will no longer require tax filers to indicate whether they had health coverage or paid a penalty set under Obamacare, dealing a blow to a pillar of the healthcare law, the website Reason.com reported.

Republican President Donald Trump, who has pledged to dismantle the 2010 Affordable Care Act, signed an order on Jan. 20, his first day in office, to freeze regulations and take other steps to weaken the law known as Obamacare.

Citing Trump’s Order, IRS Stops Enforcing Individual Mandate for Health Insurance

5 posted on 06/01/2018 8:42:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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I’m asking for a friend.

Retired, so no real “income”, 57, an investor.

What does he do??

;)


6 posted on 06/01/2018 8:46:53 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 ( Thank GOD Hillary didn't get elected!)
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Maybe try applying to Medicare? Whether it’s for a short term or not doesn’t matter. It’s administered state by state, so income levels aren’t the same. And some states require recipients to be working or looking for job.


7 posted on 06/01/2018 8:49:45 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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This is The BEST healthcare insurance alternative.
It’s worked for us and extended family over the years.
I reached them all, and these folks are responsive and pay out on time.
It’s not “insurance” but essentially helps cover your medical bills costs according to their policies.
It satisfies the Obola care ins requirement, too.

https://www.libertyhealthshare.org/3-program-options


8 posted on 06/01/2018 8:50:21 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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Because, as Scarlett O’Hara once said, it’s a sight easier to steal from the poor than it is from the rich.


13 posted on 06/01/2018 9:10:51 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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I have not had healthcare insurance since 2002, when I quit my job and created my own job as an independent contractor... going from a 75K salary to less than $30k annual income.

In that time, I have spent approximately 20-30k on medical related expenses... including a major surgery and LOTS of chiropractic care and dental expenses.

Had I paid for health insurance (family of 4) for that period of time (guestimating) at a conservative $400.00 per month for healthcare premiums (NOT accounting for co-pay or uncovered items), I would have spent approximately $76,800 on insurance premiums alone.

Most healthcare providers offer substantial discounts if you tell them that you are self pay and low income. The biggest discount I got was from a hospital which charged about $5000.00 for a major surgery that they would have charged over 32k for if I were insured. (they gave us a 95% discount)

Regardless, I am certainly not financially well off... but had I attempted to comply, I would have been forced to go bankrupt years ago. If Trump had not won, there would be no hope left for me.

I can only credit God Himself for protecting me thus far...
and can only trust Him going forward.
I literally live paycheck to paycheck.
Health insurance is not even close to an option.

Hell... it’s not even insurance anyway. That doesn’t even exist. It’s socialized medicine... and the very reason why we cannot even find a good doctor anymore.


14 posted on 06/01/2018 9:11:53 AM PDT by Safrguns
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As far as the penalty, you get out of it by stating that you couldn’t afford to pay for any. My son’s tax preparer told him how to do that each year of the penalties.


16 posted on 06/01/2018 9:27:39 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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Lets get down to practical definitions:

Medical Insurance. That’s when a company engages in a contract with an individual or group with the cost determined by the health risk and coverage limits. Government health plans are not insurance contracts.

Government health “insurance”. That’s simply a tax payer socialized health care plan. The individual pays some or none of the expense and the government pays the rest. Medicare, Medicare, VA.

Medical care. That’s simply the provision of medical services. It can be paid by the individual, private insurance or combination of the above.

Health care. That’s when someone engages in efforts to maintain their health which sometimes includes medical care. This primarily involves nutrition, exercise, life style. Some people like to conflate health care with medical care in order to confuse the issue.

If we can use these clear definitions, we can avoid being confused by policy-makers that intentionally seek to confuse the public (remember Gruber).


18 posted on 06/01/2018 9:40:15 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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Some foreigners came in for an uninsured procedure at the hospital here. Unfortunately, I came in for the same and was charged double. Found out from the bookkeeping lady. I had to pay the inflated bill. For nothing since the procedure failed.


23 posted on 06/01/2018 10:05:38 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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I don’t. Nothing happened to me.


28 posted on 06/01/2018 11:47:20 AM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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How could the IRS "come after you" on your filings?

Didn't you file your form 8965?   thinking face

31 posted on 06/01/2018 2:49:20 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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One actually asked how we had been able to live without health care? I find it hard to believe that we are the only people in the nation who didn’t get in the line to the ovens.

My insurance was cancelled due to Obamacare and I flat out Refuse to pay the Extortion Rates they charge now. You would be Amazed at how CHEAP Health Care really is when YOU PAY!!!

12 stitches, Emergency Room $2500
12 Stitches, Doctors Office $500

Cyst, with Insurance $75 Co Pay if you satisfied your deductible of $7000, if Not, $400

Cyst, No Insurance, $95 Office Visit.

PAY CASH and you will get Everything for about 20% of the going rate.

https://surgerycenterok.com/


33 posted on 06/01/2018 3:12:14 PM PDT by eyeamok
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