Posted on 05/01/2018 4:13:00 PM PDT by cba123
That’s sweet!
I have a 1967 Les Paul Deluxe that I bought new at the time. It was my go to guitar for 20 years.
Maybe it’s time for a new one... ;)
I recently bought a 2017 Les Paul. I have literally played guitar for 50 years. I currently own fenders, martins, taylors, and an old Les Paul, etc. Trust me, the new Les Paul does not suck.
As a semi-professional guitar player that's been gigging regularly for over 30 years using both old, and new Gibson guitars, I couldn't disagree with your sentiment more.
I love Gibson guitars, but they have gotten so expensive. They made a huge mistake about 5-6 years ago when they did the “New Coke” thing and put Robo Tuners on their guitars, and metal zero fret nuts. Really hurt them. The next year, they brought back “Old Coke” and keep the new enhancements as and HP line.
Their quality control has been pretty bad the last few years. Their Epihone line which is mostly built in Asia, is generally just as good, and 25% the cost of a Gibson. I’ve bought a couple Epiphones recently, spent $500 to upgrade the electronics and had a pretty nice guitar.
And the other big issue, is they started expanding into home electronics. Bought a ton of companies and added massive debt.
Hope they survive. Still an iconic American brand.
The new one will not sound like the old one. The old pickups just have that ‘sound’ down. The newer humbuckers are a world apart. IMHO
Thanks for the info, I haven't played a new one. I moved on to many different guitars for different purposes. I'll check out a new Les Paul when I get the chance.
As long as music keeps regressing into techno crap, Gibson is only the first of many. Guitar Hero started the dumbing down of the next generation of musicians. Welcome the next generation http://www.roli.com
Never been a fan of Gibson. A guy I knew bought a Les Paul and the neck was like rubber. If you laid it flat and raise the neck from the head-stock it would go out of tune, almost a full half step. The truss rod had no effect.
I’m not a fan of humbuckers either; single coils are better to my ears.
Gibson’s had it’s ups and downs; they all have. Fashions change. Hell, their might be an exploding market for banjos next year— maybe a YouTube Avante Garde banjo player will come along and blow everybody away. Gibson makes those too.
I wouldn’t even consider buying a new guitar when the older ones are of much finer quality than most of today’s brands.
Only 15? Think I’m up to 30 or 31 now... GAS is a heck of a disease. On the other hand, one can never have too many guns or guitars. Bought a Jap 6120 and a Sherwood Green ‘62 Custom Tele reissue new. Oldest is a 27 Martin O-28, newest is my working axe, a recent (ca 2011?) ‘64 reissue Jazz Bass.
The Obama DOJ went after Gibson, didn’t they? Not sure how that all ended, but I wonder if that is part of why they’ve been struggling.
To each their own but I don’t really like Les Paul’s. They are too heavy and the fretboard’s seem a little small for my large hands. My Fender strats are perfect for my hands.
The old Marauder is different, I’ll give you that. On the other hand, I didn’t pay all that much for it. Gibson’s attempt to make a Tele! I do kind of like the neck, though.
My guitars AND my motorcycles......
That’s wholly inaccurate
Romney left Bain six years prior to Bain acquiring Guitar Center
Ares ..A Ressler fund owns most of Guitar Center now and it is in trouble
Bain Capital has scores of success stories and anyone can look them up and some failures and criticisms which mostly emanate from the left due to Romney
Guitar Center is not Gibson
Biggest investor in Gibson is KKR ....Kolberg Kravis and Roberts
Henry Kravis the ostensible leader played by Jonathon Pryce in Barbarians at the Gate about the RJR NABISCO run
Trump touted him as Treasury sec
KKR has their detractors too.
For many posters all big business is suspect
That’s always struck me as a lefty position
I’ll let you blast me free of charge I realize freepers who resent big companies ain’t changing their minds
My father in law...God love him..was like that....
I’m not.
Guitars have a very long shelf life, especially because so many people buy one and give up playing after a month or less. So it stands to reason that there is always a glut of them.
The article said that Gibson had some bad investments. It was not a lack of sales that pushed them into Chapter 11. Not that a long decline in guitar sales has helped any. And why shouldn’t guitar sales decline. Kids today are listening to more rap and sugar pop with electronic music. Name a guitar star today who would motivate a kid to pick up an axe and start playing. There isn’t anybody.
Guitar sales are dying because music is dying.
The folks left holding the bag generally aren’t the ones who made the big money. You probably should mull over why I even thought to look to see if there was a Bain nexus.
As for the others - International Bankers are pretty much fungible. I’m more of a main street guy than a Wall Street - New World Order guy. I freely admit that I’m not aligned with the USCoC/Bush/Romney crowd. If that makes me a leftist in your eyes, so be it.
I also blame guitar teachers.
Guitar teachers are 100% guilty in dragging out lesson YEARS longer than they need to be.
There are only a few simple rules for learning guitar which can be explained.
1. learn all the notes on the fretboard
2. learn the basic chords/notes in a key
3. understand that you can deviate from the standard chords in a key to make a song more interesting. Ex. AM...maybe use an AM9dim instead.
4. Learn pentatonic scale and the starting window area for each key. Once the pentatonic scale is mastered for each key, start adding additional scale notes (blues, dorian, ionian, etc.)
5. Understand that lead can jump all over the fretboard as long as the same notes in the key are used. Ex. you can play a small riff or part of a riff at the 12th fret then continue at the 3rd fret then back down to 15th fret. All lead note will stay the same everywhere on the fretboard (within the key)
6. Learn how to play a song(s) but while learning also understand how it is constructed and it will prove everything above.
7.Practicing is boring...so practice, practice, practice.
Last rule, lose a couple thousand dollars buying high and selling low about 15 guitars over a 3 year period until you finally end up with 4 or 5 that you won’t let go.
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