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How Turkey Destroyed Its Own Air Force
http://nationalinterest.org/ ^ | 3/16/18 | Michael Peck

Posted on 03/18/2018 3:24:07 PM PDT by BBell

Fighter pilots aren't cheap. The U.S. Air Force estimates that training a new pilot to fly a plane like the F-35 costs $11 million. And that doesn't count the priceless experience of a veteran pilot who has been flying for years. That's why the U.S. Air Force is willing to offer half-million-dollar bonuses to retain experienced fighter pilots.

So a nation that throws its fighter pilots in jail is not just wasting money, but also an extremely valuable resource. Yet in the name of politics, Turkey's government has purged its air force so badly that it can barely fly its F-16 fighters.

The trouble began on July 15, 2016, when members of Turkey’s military “allegedly” launched a coup to topple the Islamist government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The word allegedly is used for a reason. Despite being pros at overthrowing civilian governments (with four successful coups between 1960 and 1997), the 2016 effort was laughable. Soldiers attempted to isolate Istanbul by erecting roadblocks on the Bosporus Bridge—but only blocked the lanes in one direction. Youtube video showed soldiers with Leopard tanks surrendering to police and civilians. As Erdogan was flying back to Istanbul from vacation, two Turkish Air Force F-16s had his aircraft in their sights—but failed to shoot it down.

And the vaunted Turkish military was supposed to be NATO's Cold War southern bulwark against the Soviets? If so, it's a wonder that the Kremlin never seized the Bosporus.

All of which had skeptics wondering whether the coup was actually a false-flag operation by the Turkish government, aimed at providing (or provoking) an excuse to quash secular Turkish generals and covert followers of exiled cleric Fethullah Gulen. Either way, the coup fizzled in less than an hour, and then Erdogan's government took its revenge.

Numerous senior and field-grade officers were purged. More than 300 F-16 pilots were dismissed. This defanged the Turkish military as a political threat, and strengthened the increasingly authoritarian rule of Erdogan and his neo-Ottoman Justice and Development Party, which has imprisoned many journalists. But it left a gaping question: who would be left to fly Turkey's jet fighters?

With war raging in Syria, and Turkish forces grabbing parts of northern Syria, Turkey's military is keeping busy (including an F-16 that shot down a Russian plane over Syria—the Turkish pilot who did it was one of those purged). It hardly seems a propitious time to decimate your pilot cadre.

The Turkish government has been looking overseas to make up the shortfall. However, the Washington has rebuffed a request to send over U.S. flight instructors, though Turkish pilots are receiving basic flight training in the United States. Turkey has also sought assistance from Pakistan—which also flies F-16s—though training Turkish pilots could violate U.S. arms export rules. In a sign of desperation, "the Turkish government has issued a decree that threatens 330 former pilots with the revocation of their civil pilot license, unless they return to Air Force duty for four years," notes an Atlantic Council report.

"It is unclear how the decision to compel a return to service will impact unit morale," the report added.

Now, enter Russia—a traditional enemy of Turkey for centuries, and one of whose jets was shot down by the Turks over Syria. Yet Turkey is seeking to buy Russia's S-400 long-range anti-aircraft missiles, which only ratchets up tensions between Washington and Ankara over Syria and other issues.

Turkey has also signed an agreement with Franco-Italian missile maker Eurosam to develop a long-range anti-aircraft missile. And why is Turkey suddenly so interested in surface-to-air missiles? "In aftermath of 15 July, with the operations against the Turkish Armed Forces, there was a reduction in the number of F-16 pilots, creating a need to develop our air defense," said Turkish analyst Verda Ozer. "This is the reason for the S-400 purchase."

But even the S-400 wouldn't totally solve Turkey's air defense travails. "Since the Russian S-400 system cannot be integrated into NATO infrastructure, it cannot be used to protect against missile defense," Ozer notes. Hence, Turkey needs two systems: the S-400 to shoot down hostile aircraft, and a Eurosam weapon to intercept ballistic missiles.

Perhaps it would have been easier not to get rid of those F-16 pilots.

Michael Peck, a frequent contributor to TNI, is a defense and historical writer based in Oregon. His work has appeared in Foreign Policy, WarIsBoring and many other fine publications


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; airforce; cyprus; erdogan; europeanunion; eurosam; f16; greece; hassannasrallah; hezbollah; iran; iraq; israel; jerusalem; kurdistan; lebanon; letshavejerusalem; nato; pakistan; receptayyiperdogan; russia; s400; syria; turkey; waronterror
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To: BBell
But it left a gaping question: who would be left to fly Turkey's jet fighters?

Erdogan don't need no stinkin' jet fighters anyway. He can simply request hundreds of flying carpets from Saudi Arabia to pick up the slack.

After all, isn't that what Mohammed would do?

21 posted on 03/18/2018 5:33:34 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: DIRTYSECRET; SunkenCiv

Most of the pilots in Turkey are secular, that is why they are kicked out


22 posted on 03/19/2018 2:15:45 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

tell it to Les Nessman.


23 posted on 03/19/2018 3:24:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (President Trump makes obammy look like the punk he is.)
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To: SunkenCiv
A friend of mine in Syria told me that Putin would chose his own time to even the score of Erdogan’s military shooting down Russia's jet near the Syrian border. This article makes the downing of the Russian jet more understandable.

Then there is the jet that was shot down in Deir Ezzor area with a shoulder launched missile. Russians said early on that it was made in the USA. I think they concluded that it was shipped to that area by Turkey and was in hands of one of Turkey's Jihadi groups. I never heard if the person who actually used it was ever identified. I'm sure something that expensive would be heavily tracked.

Putin was an accountant for the KGB. He is methodical. Obviously he learned other traits there too.

I agree, this will not end well for Erdogan or Turkey.

24 posted on 03/19/2018 6:18:55 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
The Deir Ezzor event involved a helicopter; any US weapons used could have come from almost anywhere.

25 posted on 03/19/2018 6:25:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

I was relying on my memory. Is this the event you were talking about? This is not the original article I read, but this is photo I remember.

http://www.english.iswnews.com/1135/militia-shoot-down-a-russian-su-25-jet-over-saraqeb/

It is not specifically in the Deir Ezzor area. That might have been my point of confusion. (or just my age? smile)


26 posted on 03/19/2018 6:44:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Why are we still in NATO? We can make mutual defense pacts with the handful of real allies we have over there. The rest (ie the vast majority of them) are just ankle biting free riders counting on us to pay for their defense so they can waste more money on socialism. Screw ‘em.


27 posted on 03/19/2018 6:59:48 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Texas Fossil

Old age kinda sucks, but also beats the alternative. ;^)


28 posted on 03/19/2018 7:25:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Rodger on that.


29 posted on 03/19/2018 7:31:14 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: AdmSmith
Maybe, maybe not, but they weren't the fanatical bigots that Erdogan wants in there. All these missile systems (S400, Eurosam) are getting installed for one reason only -- to protect the approaches to Iran's nuclear weapons program.

30 posted on 03/19/2018 11:38:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Texas Fossil; SunkenCiv
Erdogan culls his military

Erdogan then over-extends agaisnt Kurds

Erdogan gets himself kicked out of NATO, so no NATO support against an attack by outsiders

Russia gets the Dardanelles.....

31 posted on 03/27/2018 2:45:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

Very appropriate analysis.

My friend and I have long speculated that Russia is playing with Erdogan.

You are perceptive.

Thanks


32 posted on 03/27/2018 6:34:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Cronos

Next step?

Tal Rifat handed over to the Turkish regime

https://anfenglish.com/news/tal-rifat-handed-over-to-the-turkish-regime-25763

FR Comments: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3642772/posts


33 posted on 03/27/2018 6:59:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
Not so perceptive as having read a few books (hasn't made me wise, just put two and two together):
  1. Ivan IV declaring Moscow the "Third Rome"
  2. Tsar Alexander's aim to push and free the Balkans from Turkish rule
  3. Tsar Nicholas' aim to crush the Turks and win Crimea and thence onwards to Constantinople (books on the Crimean war) which was stopped by the English
  4. "1920: the miracle on the vistula" by Adam Zamoyski which talked of Tukachevsky, the Soviet military genius who nearly won the war to spread the revolution to Germany and Western Europe. Even though he hated Christianity (called it "the religion of the dead Jew") and pretended to worship the ancient Slavic deities, he still wanted to lead Russian armies to conquer Constantinople

Constantinople is so ingrained in the Russian mindset since the baptism of the Rus that they will strive for it no matter what.

Let Erdogan play the fool (I hope I am not being short-sighted and don't see a card he has up his sleeve)

34 posted on 03/27/2018 7:03:58 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

He has weakened his military to the point he uses ISIS and al Qaeda to bleed for him. That animal will turn on him an eat him. Oh, I forgot he is one with them.

Will NATO see that he is NATO’s enemy? I think the US does. Won’t admit that Turkey is lost, but understands what is at stake. Most of EU is blinded by the socialist dogma and dream. Much like Erdogan is blinded by his dream of being the Sultan for a great movement. He will over reach and self destruct, with great human loss.


35 posted on 03/27/2018 7:20:56 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Cronos
Eventually his two new "partners" will be using his flayed skin for a sex toy. The former, failed states of Syria and Iraq should be renamed "Quagmiria" on world maps.

36 posted on 03/27/2018 1:10:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv
The best approach would be
  1. to tear off western Iraq and Eastern Syria (the Sunni dominated areas), attach them to the Hashemite dynasty ruled Jordan
  2. Give Assad the city dominated West Syria and Latakia with the condition that Sunnis are pushed to the east or they convert
  3. Shia dominated south Iraq
  4. Kurdistan
  5. Yazidi land
  6. Assyria

37 posted on 03/28/2018 2:48:14 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos
If it comes to rebuilding the boundaries, I'd go for most of those, but the only thing the Assad family would get is bullets in the cranium. The Hezbollah would be annihilated, and the Alawite and western Sunni remnants of Syria joined to Lebanon.

38 posted on 03/28/2018 10:49:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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