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Will the Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Ever Be Probed by Federal Authorities?
The Post & Email ^ | 12/7/2017 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 12/10/2017 5:08:23 PM PST by Elderberry

In an interview last Friday with “Freedom Friday” host Carl Gallups, Obama birth-certificate lead investigator Mike Zullo revealed for the first time that the “Deep State” prevented a federal investigation of his findings, compiled over a 5+-year period, that the “long-form” birth certificate image posted by the Obama White House in 2011 is a “computer-generated forgery.”

Virtually unknown in the United States prior to the election of Donald J. Trump last year, the term “Deep State” has now been invoked by some newscasters, journalists and commentators as well as by Trump himself through his Twitter account. Left-leaning news outlets reluctantly discussed it beginning in early March, after Trump claimed on Twitter that he and his campaign aides had been “wiretapped” during the final months of the presidential campaign.

On March 9, 2017, Politico Magazine declared, “The Deep State Is a Figment of Steve Bannon’s Imagination,” referring to then-White House Senior Adviser Steve Bannon, now Editor-in-Chief at Breitbart News.

The article begins, featuring a photo of Bannon:

Here’s a handy rule for assessing the credibility of what you’re reading about national security in the Trump era: If somebody uses the term “Deep State,” you can be pretty sure they have no idea what they’re talking about.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 1bigfraud; believeanything; bigfoot; birther; boguspotus; buttermagnet; certifigate; fbi; hawaii; jamescomey; kenya; liarinchief; malcomxson; naturalborncitizen; obama; peterstrzok; robertmueller; ufo
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To: 4Zoltan; Fantasywriter

Good digging! You’re right, it does end the debate. Not much left of that smoking gun now.


281 posted on 12/16/2017 12:06:05 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

You missed post 272. It proves what I’ve been saying all along. If Obama had been born in HI, Abercrombie’s quest would have begun and ended with the vital records. Instead, when they finally tracked down an indication that Obama was born in HI, it was something, ‘written down in the archives.’

It doesn’t get any plainer than that. There was no BC. The one produced later was fabricated. This would not have been the case, had Obama been born in HI. Obviously he wasn’t.

You can’t spin this one. Abercrombie laid it all out plainly. The facts speak for themselves.


282 posted on 12/16/2017 12:59:38 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Elderberry

Bump for later


283 posted on 12/16/2017 1:10:27 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: Fantasywriter
Apologies, I should have responded.

Your point is fairly risible; parsing words and phrases in order to put your conspiracy slant on things and ignoring more more compelling evidence such as this...

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/t/ex-hawaii-official-denounces-ludicrous-birther-claims/

BTW, you missed my post 257

284 posted on 12/16/2017 3:24:05 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

I literally had trouble not laughing too hard to respond. In your desperation, you’ve become simply hilarious.

Words have meaning. Taking them at face value is the mirror opposite of parsing. Abercrombie set out to prove Obama was born in HI. He proved the opposite. You may as well embrace the truth; you can’t worm your way out of it anyway.

Since Abercrombie proved once and for all that Obama was NOT born in HI, the point about infants flying has become immaterial, irrelevant, moot, and of no account. But the article about the crash, though tragic, was also fascinating. Thanks for posting.

Btw, Abercrombie’s epic failure in locating a HI BC for Obama ties in with Brian Schatz’ refusal to certify Obama as eligible. Something written in the archives was insufficient to get Obama on the ballot. Corrupt Pelosi had to actually change the eligibility language in order to sneak Obama past it. Shameful.


285 posted on 12/16/2017 7:40:16 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Saying that hearsay (and retracted) evidence from a celebrity journalist supercedes direct statements from the public servant responsible for birth certificates is palpable nonsense. Are you sure you weren’t laughing too hard to take your OCD medication?


286 posted on 12/16/2017 8:16:05 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Fantasywriter; Natufian

“the point about infants flying has become immaterial, irrelevant, moot, and of no account.”

Classic tinfoil hat nuttery.

So the narrative that Obama went to Vancouver:

No proof Dunham’s aunt lived in Vancouver or Washington in 1961.

Hawaii did have a Salvation Army Home for unwed mothers.

Three week old infants were able to fly in commercial airliners.

Everything including Abercrombie’s statement points to a birth in Hawaii. But we already knew that.


287 posted on 12/16/2017 8:25:03 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Ladysforest; Fred Nerks
Here is the pod cast of the Zullo/Gallups interview:

http://carlgallups.blogspot.com/2017/12/freedom-friday-12-15-17-zev-porat.html

At the 44:30 minute mark there is this discussion:

Gallups: Mike, are you on the line?

Zullo: I am, Carl. Hey Carl before we go further I’d like to highlight something.

Gallups: Yes, sir

So your audience really understands why this is so significant. You know this pertains more to the short form birth certificate what I’m going to speak of next. That was first released I believe in 2008. However prior to that there was a fictitious short form released by some guy whose name escapes me right now but he was a former employee I believe an analyst for NSA but don’t quote me on that I could be wrong on the agency. And he eventually comes clean and says that he fabricated it. It was missing a raised seal. It was missing some other things on it. But what struck me about that is here this some guy purportedly not connected to anybody creates this fictitious short form but it’s got the correct serial number on it as it corresponds to the document Obama ended up releasing on two different occasions.

How do you have that?

How do you have that?

So where did this number come from?

And there’s a lot of speculation that it belonged to a little deceased infant by the last name of Sunahara. And there’s speculation that her number was utilized. During the course of this investigation I interviewed directors of health in a number of places and they all said to me that the software that’s used that creates birth documents. You can change just about all of the information contained in the document but you cannot change the serial number. Once it’s issued, it’s issued. So now let’s go back and look at these breaches. And unfortunately we were not able to go further back in time to see how many other times this occurred.

But if someone had the ability to go in there, take over the computer as an administrator, has working knowledge of that vital statistic program, goes in and changes information they need a serial number. So they take a serial number. Well there’s a lot of speculation because the serial number on Obama’s certificate is wildly off by about 400 numbers.

Which doesn’t make any sense. Now we’ve seen other birth certificates from different years that their numbers are not consecutive but they’re not the span of differential between number to number like Obama’s.

So this has a lot of significance what Montgomery was saying.

I don't recall the part about someone having the certificate number before Obama released his short form in 2008. And I don't understand his point about Obama's number being off by 400 numbers. If anything the Ah'Nee certificate and the Henderson certificate are off by hundreds of numbers.

288 posted on 12/16/2017 8:46:31 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Natufian

If you could read you would see that Evans isn’t mentioned in the post I referenced. Abercrombie’s own words are a matter of public record, and are damning to your case.


289 posted on 12/16/2017 9:49:58 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

Time to reread the crucial quote:

‘Officials in Hawaii have tracked down papers indicating that President Obama was indeed born in their state, according to its new governor.

Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who took office in December, told Honolulu’s Star-Advertiser on Tuesday that “our investigation” indicates there is a recording of his birth.

“It actually exists in the archives, written down,” he said.’

If there had been a BC for Obama, it would have been in the vital records. Instead all they found was an indication of Obama’s birth in the archives—it was actually written down.

Game, set and match.


290 posted on 12/16/2017 9:55:44 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

I knew when you got inordinately triggered that the Abercrombie issue was like garlic to a vampire for you. Obots have always reacted to the Abercrombie episode this way. It evokes mindless, reptilian anger among Obama’s most ardent fans.

You should be knowlegeable enough to know that if Obama had, at the time Abercrombie searched, a HI BC, it would have been in vital records. But all their search revealed was an indication of Obama’s birth in the archives. There was “something written down.”

This is the reason Brian Schatz refused to certify Obama as eligible. It led to corrupt Pelosi going so far as to change the actual language re eligibility. For anyone but an Obot, the conclusion is inescapable.


291 posted on 12/16/2017 10:06:05 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Where does he say there is no birth certificate in the DOH?

Saying it is written down in the archives does not mean it is not also in The DOH. That it is in the DOH is a given. That there is also something written down in the archives is the news here.


292 posted on 12/16/2017 10:36:48 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

Please show me a quote or a link to a quote where Brian Schatz says the he refused to do anything.


293 posted on 12/16/2017 10:38:48 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter
In reference to Obama's Hawaii birth certificate we have two quotes:

"It actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie.

"It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that," Fukino.

Only a moron would read those and come to the conclusion that no Hawaii birth certificate exists for Obama. Especially as the latter comes from the official guardian of the records and who says she has inspected the real thing on at least two occasions.

294 posted on 12/16/2017 10:41:13 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: 4Zoltan

You can read about the Schatz episode here:

http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/12/obama-ignores-senators-dying-wish/


295 posted on 12/16/2017 10:46:33 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; 4Zoltan

Fail.


296 posted on 12/16/2017 11:02:35 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: 4Zoltan

Obots have no choice but to play idiotic, time-wasting, evasive and dishonest games with the Abercrombie episode. If you are sentient you know what happened. It’s been posted numerous times. Because it is devastating to the Obot narrative, Obots have to claim they cannot read or understand basic English, and attempt to lie their way out of the facts.

When will you stop wasting conservatives’ time? If you can’t read then you shouldn’t be posting. If you can read then stop lying. You act as if Jim Robinson set this site up as a place for Obots to act stupidly. But he didn’t. He created FR for conservatives.

Guess what. Conservatives can both read and comprehend. If you want to be as stupid as a moonbat, go to a moonbat site and be stupid there.


297 posted on 12/16/2017 11:02:43 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Natufian

See post 297.


298 posted on 12/16/2017 11:03:46 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Another fine example of resorting to insults when caught out. A bit more maturity would be welcome.


299 posted on 12/16/2017 11:06:27 AM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

For ~the millionth time: had there been a BC for Obama in HI, Abercrombie would have found it in the vital records. But all he found was something written down in the archives. It wasn’t a BC. Obama didn’t have one.

Go back to your Leftist gutter sites. JR didn’t create FR to give Obots a place to lie on Obama’s behalf. You have misused and abused Mr. Robinson’s hospitality long enough.


300 posted on 12/16/2017 11:08:23 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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