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August 1857
Harper's Magazine archives (subscription required) ^ | August 1857

Posted on 08/01/2017 6:59:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

Link to July 1857 thread

1 posted on 08/01/2017 6:59:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...
August is the slowest month in 1857 for planned posts. Even George Strong goes silent until the 30th.

North Carolina Illustrated – 1-12
Monthly Record of Current Events * – 13-15
Editor’s Drawer – 16-26
Elephantine Metamorphoses – 27-28
Fashions for August – 29-30

* Highlights:

Utah has a new governor. A U.S. military force is occupying the state to quell disturbances.

“The vote at the Territorial election in Kansas was very light, the Free-State party having adhered to their resolution to abstain from taking a part in the election.”

“The Court of Appeals of New York has affirmed the decision of the Supreme Court in favor of the constitutionality of the Metropolitan Police Bill, which was contested by the Mayor of New York.”

“The message of Governor Haile, of New Hampshire, regrets that the State has been deprived by emigration of many of her best citizens; urges that a longer period of residence, and the ability to read and write the English language should be required of aliens before they shall be admitted to vote; and advocates a protest by the Legislatures of all the free States against the decision of the Supreme Court in the Dred Scott case.”

“The foreign emigration to this country, which last year had greatly diminished, is now very large. During the first six months of the present year the arrivals at the port of New York were 86,080, exceeding those of the corresponding period last year by more than 30,000.”

“A band of renegade Sioux, the War-pe-ku-tahs, headed by a noted war-chief named Ink-pa-du-tah, have committed terrible outrages in Minnesota and the borders of Iowa. More than thirty settlers were killed near Spirit Lake and on the Sioux and Des Moines rivers, and a number of females were carried away captives. Some these were brutally outraged and murdered. One of the survivors, a young woman named Gardner, was subsequently ransomed through the intervention of some friendly Indians and brought back to St. Paul.”

Many other events, foreign and domestic, are covered.

2 posted on 08/01/2017 7:04:43 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Reminds me to thank you once again for that wonderful series of posts on WWII.


3 posted on 08/01/2017 7:14:10 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Stosh

Glad you enjoyed them. It turned out that I like having a foot in two different times, so I started this new project. So far this one is a lot less work than the WWII project. So far.


4 posted on 08/01/2017 7:52:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Interesting read - I hadn’t known about gold mining in NC prior.


5 posted on 08/01/2017 8:07:42 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I see that, “Nothing of special importance has occurred in the British Parliament.”


6 posted on 08/01/2017 8:19:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The less free you are, the more you are obliged to applaud.")
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To: reed13k

I live here in the gold-mining area of North Carolina. It is easy to find potentially gold-bearing quartz veins, but the chance of finding a big nugget is pretty small now. In parts of east Mecklenburg and Union counties, the groundwater is contaminated with arsenic from the processing of gold-bearing ore.


7 posted on 08/01/2017 8:31:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The less free you are, the more you are obliged to applaud.")
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To: Tax-chick
I like the suggestion of dressing the boy in embroidered silks.

Can you imagine the screams you would hear on FR if someone suggested that today?

8 posted on 08/01/2017 8:37:27 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Please add me. Warning: I can chew gum in class without detection. Catch me if you can!


9 posted on 08/01/2017 8:50:19 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: WKUHilltopper

You are enrolled. Lucky for you the mandatory death penalty for gum chewing in class is not enforced in the on-line version of the course.


10 posted on 08/01/2017 9:10:23 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

on 19: a lyrical work lacking an ubiquitous non-consonant; a magical job of improv with zilch to do to fix it!


11 posted on 08/01/2017 9:16:26 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

People were more self-confident in those days. I just can’t imagine going to all that trouble to get dressed every morning. I was an early medieval reenactor, back in the day: just throw on a shift and you’re ready to go.


12 posted on 08/01/2017 9:25:38 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The less free you are, the more you are obliged to applaud.")
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To: Stosh

A+


13 posted on 08/01/2017 9:26:20 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

LOL! Thanks!


14 posted on 08/01/2017 9:33:09 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I saw that. Mine were more of the chortle variety ;’}


15 posted on 08/01/2017 10:14:50 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; All
"August is the slowest month in 1857..."

When do we begin to hear of the famous 1857 Panic, which is now supposedly underway?

"Utah has a new governor.
A U.S. military force is occupying the state to quell disturbances."

We might note here: it was not unheard of for US military forces to be sent to places in turmoil or rebellion.
It happened before, and when it happens again (I predict) the next President will be thinking, at first, in terms of quelling another such minor domestic disturbance, not necessarily of an existential national challenge.

16 posted on 08/11/2017 4:40:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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In mid-September lawyers with Wall Street offices will have a front row seat from which to view the excitement. One of them, recognizing the significance of those days, will address a journal entry O Posterity, Posterity . . .

He means us.

17 posted on 08/11/2017 5:36:03 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from July 14 (reply #27).

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Nicole Etcheson, Bleeding Kansas: Contested Liberty in the Civil War Era

18 posted on 08/20/2017 5:33:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

This is very timely, Homer. Even without the interwebs, people were managing to gin up violent mob and injure those of different viewpoints.

On the other hand, I recall that things are going to go downhill from August 1857 forward ...


19 posted on 08/20/2017 5:49:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't read all day if you don't start early in the morning.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Some of this sounds familiar these days.

Do you know what was the constitutional convention all about or if anything come of it?


20 posted on 08/20/2017 7:49:17 AM PDT by Jim W N
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