Posted on 07/05/2017 10:21:14 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
Manny Pacquiao asked the WBO to act on a request by Philippine sports officials for a review of his welterweight world title loss to Jeff Horn, saying he didn't want to see the boxing industry "dying because of unfair decision and officiating."
While Pacquiao has accepted his defeat to Horn, who fought in his first world title bout in Sunday's so-called "Battle of Brisbane," the Philippine senator said in a statement Wednesday he had a "moral obligation to uphold sportsmanship, truth and fairness."
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I have a lot of respect for Pacquiao. He seems like a good guy. And by most accounts I've seen and read Pacquiao was robbed. But boxing has been corrupt for my almost 60 years and then some. The WBO has no business reviewing the loss, at least not for the possible purpose of overturning the decision.
Senator Pacquiao needs to let sleeping dogs lie.
I used to box and sometimes maybe half the time I couldn’t tell who won the round. It is too subjective. But you are 100% correct that it is a corrupt business
I watched the fight and when they announced the decision I couldn’t believe it.
Manny beat the tar out of Horn.
Horn was a game fighter but clearly didn’t win.
Somebody got to the judges.
As has been said many times before, the only way to beat bad judging is to not leave the decision in the hands of the judges.
Manny had like 90+ more punches than Horn
Manny landed 40 more jabs & landed 50 more power punches!! LOL
For a sport that is having trouble maintaining its credibility and popularity, this fight—and it was a great fight—represents a giant step backwards for the sport. The decision was ridiculous, whether in terms of the hard statistics, or alternately the general flow of the fight. Pacquiao won that fight by any objective criteria...
I boxed golden gloves when younger. And I taught combatives in the military, level four. I watched the whole fight.
I had a feeling this was going to happen when Horn was strongly warned, not a point taken, for his first headbutt that opened the gash high on Pacquiao’s right forehead. There was also no point taken for the headbutt later that opened up a gash over Pacquiao’s left eye. Both were obvious fouls and nothing called.
Horn successfully landed less than a dozen solid punches in the entire fight getting most ducked under or picked off with the gloves or forearms. He was trying to mall Pacquiao for the whole fight and threw him around the ring a number of times with his head and shoulders.
At the end of the fight, Horn was bleeding on both sides of his face, his nose, and one eye was closed. Pacquiao was tired, probably from having hold up Horns weight throughout the fight, but was not really marked except for the two butts. This was a falacy.
rwood
Pacquiao
It was very close, it could have gone either way
I gave Horn the win by a round.
I can't believe the reaction to this!
People upset because the fight was a rough one!
Horn didn't get warned for fouling!
When a right handed fighter fights a left handed one, it always gets messy.
It is like comparing winning the popular vote with the electoral one.
The fight was very close and could have gone either way.
When you fight in a guys back yard he is going to get a slight advantage.
That is why Mayweather never leaves Vegas.
I didn't see Paq's corner making a big issue out of it.
I agree. I saw it off and on live (I was also doing something else, so I didn’t see every minute). My take was Pacquiao outboxed Horn but Horn was the aggressor throughout. It seemed very close to me, but to me aggression counts for a lot. It may not have been the right decision, but it wasn’t terrible either. And if you don’t want it going to the home town judges, there’s always one way to avoid that.
Agreed.
“I didn’t see Paq’s corner making a big issue out of it.”
We didn’t see them at all during the time right after each, and all we saw were handlers trying to seal the wound. And I thought Pac was not real pleased as he glared at him each time.
Horn was trying to push Pac into the ropes where he could mall him and he was doing it with his head and upper body throughout the fight. If he had not been trying the tactic. he would not have been leading with his head. Therefore his action was intent upon using his head as a device to make contact to push the other fighter. That makes it intentional.
The definition of a headbutt is an aggressive and forceful thrust with the top of the head into the face or body of another person.
So in my mind, he intended to use the headbutt tactic to force Pac to move, and if he didn’t, there would be contact. And again, he initiated it. And the only reason it was called accidental, is that they were in Horn’s home country and taking a point away in that situation would have gotten the ref and judges ostracized. And they didn’t have the guts. In other sports, it’s call home town advantage.
rwood
“I didn’t see Paq’s corner making a big issue out of it.”
Sorry I sent the reply to you before I added this part that came out of the letter sent to the boxing commission:
“Pacquiao’s trainers were critical of the referee for not doing more to stop or penalize head clashes and neck holds.”
They did complain. We just didn’t see any of it as they were focused on the repair of both cuts with the screens.
rwood
And you always take the risk of losing close decisions in the other guys back yard.
I think it was an excellent fight and this nonsense about it being an unfair decision is tainting it.
If we had those kind of bouts in a regular basis, boxing would be a major sport again.
I have to disagree with you here. To have one fighter with less than 10 bouts under his skin, step into a ring with a multi time, multi weight class world champion, try to maul him throughout the fight with neck throws and heads butts, and come out looking like hamburger while his best two shots were a couple of head butts when they didn’t take a point on the second butt as he had been warned about leading with his head, and give him the fight by two points by two of the judges scores, in his home country, is a black mark on the sport.
Boxing has been accused in the past of this type of thing, and this didn’t help it, it harmed it.
rwood
This isn't the first fight where the winner looked worse then the loser.
He wasn't just mauling, he threw a great deal of punches and wouldn't go down.
Pac may have underestimated him.
I think the fight could have gone either way, but it certainly wasn't a robbery.
“Pac may have underestimated him.”
I do agree with you here. Pacman was not in the best of shape. And they mentioned he hadn’t KO’d an opponent in, I believe, 8 years.
But I don’t think the fight was that close and they should have taken a point, at least, for that last butt. He was warned not to lead with his head and he did it all night. It was just those two that came straight in as the other connections were on an angle and not as solid.
And I do agree that some other fights have come out with the winner looking like he lost. But this was really bad. He was even so beat up by the eighth that the ref leaned into his corner and told Horn to show him something or he was going to end the fight. He had cuts in all four zones and his right eye was almost closed. Pacman had two cuts from butts, upper right forehead and over the left eye, and looked tired. I think the proof was in the damage done.
Pacquiao Horn
32% Total Punches 15%
573 Thrown 625
182 Landed 92
31% Jabs 10%
193 Thrown 197
59 Landed 19
32% Power Punches 17%
380 Thrown 428
123 Landed 73
The stats and the appearances of the fighters after the bout tell me a lot.
rwood
Can we say, “REMATCH?!?”
RWOOD
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