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On this date in 1862

Posted on 04/06/2017 4:51:47 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

Confederate General Albert S. Johnson's 40,000 man Army of Mississippi attacked General Ulysses S. Grant's 45,000 man Army of the Tennessee camped at Pittsburg Landing, MS near a small church called Shilo. The attack that morning was successful, Grant's forces were driven back three miles all the way to the Mississippi River.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: butchergrant; civilwar; dixie; shiloh
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To: central_va

Not quite the case. Lee never admitted that the assault on Cemetery was a mistake. Grant, however in his Memoirs said ordering the assault on the ANV at Cold Harbor was the worst mistake he made a General.


41 posted on 04/06/2017 7:15:29 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: central_va

Longstreet was one hell of a General, and a great leader of men. I admire him.


42 posted on 04/06/2017 7:17:29 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: rlmorel

Longstreet invented modern mobile warfare.


43 posted on 04/06/2017 7:19:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; DoodleDawg

Hood was tough as nails. Lose a leg and arm but still on horseback leading troops? Holy crap.

Of course, it reminds me of that old joke about the man visiting a farm who sees a pig in the pen hobbling around on three legs. When the visitor asks the farmer about the pig, the farmer says “Well, he’s a special ‘un. My farmhouse caught on fire last year, and he saved me and my family by waking us up. Yeah, he’s special.” So the visitor said “Wow! Did he lose his leg in the fire?”

The farmer said “Oh, no. A pig that good, you just can’t eat all at once!”

(No disrespect intended to Gen. Hood...it was just what came to mind!)


44 posted on 04/06/2017 7:23:54 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: central_va
I think Hood had a mental lapse late in the war. To much morphine? His unbridled butchery really got going when he took over the Army of Tennessee.

It could be his injuries. It could be morphine. It could be the fact that some men rise above their abilities. While Hood was fantastic as a division and brigade commander, and excellent as a corps commander, he was a bloody disaster as an army commander.

45 posted on 04/06/2017 7:30:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Bull Snipe
Shiloh was the result of the Confederacy's attempt to protect Corinth which was the rail crossroads of the Mobile and Ohio Railroad and the Memphis and Charleston Railroad. The Confederacy abandoned New Orleans and Florida to reinforce the area around Corinth and brought in the Sterling Price's Army from the West (albeit too late). Grant was using the Tennessee River to get a large Army near Corinth with Pope from the Mississippi River and Buell from Nashville were to add to his troop numbers. Pope arrived on April 10th too late but Buell got there the night of April 6th. I live on the earthworks and site of a part of the Battle of Corinth.
46 posted on 04/06/2017 7:33:02 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: DoodleDawg
Forrest to Hood at Spring Hill; “If you were a whole man I'd tear you apart!” This was after Hood ordered Forrest's men to attack the Union troops entrenched at Franklin with cavalry that had been reduced to fewer than six rounds per man after fighting the enemy troops constantly for three days. Hood didn't realize the opportunity Forrest had previously offered him with Schofield’s troops stretched out thinly from Spring Hill to Franklin.
47 posted on 04/06/2017 7:37:47 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: DoodleDawg

cannot cite the source, but years ago I read that upon General Hood’s appointment to command the AOT, General Lee stated to an aide that he thought General Hood “to much wolf, and not enough fox to command the army.”


48 posted on 04/06/2017 7:56:29 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: central_va
central_va: "The first modern general who, foregoing frontal attack, understood movement, logistics and mechanized infantry(using trains) was General Longstreet."

Thanks for that.
I also rank Longstreet very high (1 Lee, 2 Jackson, 3 Forrest, 4 Longstreet, 5 Cleburne) but am uncertain how Southerners view him, considering his whole life.
You vote puts Longstreet firmly in fourth place among Confederate generals, in my opinion.

49 posted on 04/06/2017 7:57:08 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

Longstreet was not thought well of by a lot of Southerners after the war. Some blamed him for Lee’s failure at Gettysburg. Longstreet was also somewhat critical of Lee in his post war writings. He became a Republican and supported Grant for President. Later he was appointed to various Government posts in Republican administrations.


50 posted on 04/06/2017 8:08:53 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: BroJoeK

If you wanted to make a perfect Civil War Army and forgot about which side they were on you’d have Longstreet as the supreme commander with McClellan in charge of logistics. Stuart or Sheridan to run the cavalry. Lee in charge of the infantry with corp commanders Hancock, Jackson, Johnston(Joe). Without question Gen. Hunt in charge of artillery.


51 posted on 04/06/2017 8:14:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bull Snipe

There are better U.S. generals to stick on the $50 if you just want military accomplishments alone.


52 posted on 04/06/2017 8:16:50 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020
There are better U.S. generals to stick on the $50 if you just want military accomplishments alone.

For example?

53 posted on 04/06/2017 8:31:14 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rlmorel

I would be in favor of eliminating presidents from our currency altogether. But I hesitate to say that outside of FreeRepublic because I wouldn’t want to encourage the lefties to replace them with celebrities and sports figures.


54 posted on 04/06/2017 8:50:50 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: DoodleDawg

The Union had many good generals but IMO Grant is not one of them.


55 posted on 04/06/2017 9:11:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The Union had many good generals but IMO Grant is not one of them.

To each their own.

56 posted on 04/06/2017 9:33:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rockrr

Cue up the currency from “Idiocracy”!


57 posted on 04/06/2017 9:35:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: wardaddy; Pelham; stainlessbanner; PeaRidge; easternsky

Dixie ping


58 posted on 04/06/2017 12:59:40 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade
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To: Trump20162020; DoodleDawg; Bull Snipe; central_va

Trump20162020: “ There are better U.S. generals to stick on the $50 if you just want military accomplishments alone.”

The name Douglas MacArthur comes to mind, but by 1952 Democrats hated him and Republicans went with the political general, Eisenhower, over the showboat.

The fact is that both General Grant and President Grant were highly popular in their time.
You could even say Grant was a perfect match for his time.

As a general, Grant’s statistics on offense compare well to Lee’s on offense.
The difference is Grant won all his battles, whether sober or less than.


59 posted on 04/06/2017 1:15:31 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: central_va
He was a big man who inherited a big task. After General J.E.B. Stuart was killed in battle in 1864, command of General Robert E. Lee's cavalry corps was given to him.

Born into a distinguished South Carolina family and descended from Revolutionary War patriots, He organized a cavalry force, and outfitted them at his own expense.

He rose to brigadier quickly, was wounded at First Manassas, Seven Pines and Gettysburg, and was promoted to major general in August of 1863.

A year later, after the death of Stuart, ee was given command of the Army of Northern Virginia's cavalry corps.

Almost immediately, he engaged the enemy. In early June of 1864, General Philip Sheridan led 6,000 Federal cavalrymen on an expedition to destroy a vital section of the Virginia Central Railroad. Just after daybreak on the morning of June 11th, He and 5,000 Confederate cavalrymen intercepted Sheridan's force at Trevilian Station in Virginia. A fierce battle erupted in dense woods, forcing the cavalrymen to fight on foot.

In the heat of the fight, however, He seized the opportunity to mount a charge against the Federals in a dusty clearing near the railroad. “Charge them, my brave boys, charge them,” he ordered, and courageously led the attack atop his favorite mount, a big bay named “Butler.”

Around him, the troops in gray and butternut surged toward the enemy through a haze of smoke and dust. Bolstering his veterans was a force of newly arrived South Carolinians that included the Cadet Rangers - Company F of the 6th South Carolina Cavalry - which had been organized at the Citadel. Typically, the General led with his saber - then, in hand-to-hand combat, switched to his revolver. Saddles were emptied on both sides, and he single-handedly took down three adversaries.

The battle shifted to other fields and continued the next day. It was finally decided when a bold Confederate counterattack shattered the Federal line.

On June 13th, Sheridan and his troops retreated without destroying the railroad. The Geneeral had driven back the enemy - and had demonstrated his ability to assume J.E.B. Stuart's mantle of leadership.

Mr. Terry M. Gatch, author. General Wade Hampton, Confederate hero.

60 posted on 04/06/2017 2:43:07 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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