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On this date in 1862

Posted on 04/06/2017 4:51:47 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

Confederate General Albert S. Johnson's 40,000 man Army of Mississippi attacked General Ulysses S. Grant's 45,000 man Army of the Tennessee camped at Pittsburg Landing, MS near a small church called Shilo. The attack that morning was successful, Grant's forces were driven back three miles all the way to the Mississippi River.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: butchergrant; civilwar; dixie; shiloh
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1 posted on 04/06/2017 4:51:47 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

the good old days. At least we had a shot


2 posted on 04/06/2017 4:58:09 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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To: Bull Snipe

It wasn’t the Mississippi River, it was the Tennessee River.


3 posted on 04/06/2017 4:59:46 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Bull Snipe

If Grant had been sober he’d have waited a day before crossing the river.


4 posted on 04/06/2017 5:04:59 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Bull Snipe
Sherman:Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?"

Grant:"Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

5 posted on 04/06/2017 5:06:41 AM PDT by Emergencyawesome
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To: Emergencyawesome

A man of his word


6 posted on 04/06/2017 5:07:14 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: reg45

My bad, thanks for the correction.


7 posted on 04/06/2017 5:07:43 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: brucedickinson

Yes, the Confederacy had a shot at it.


8 posted on 04/06/2017 5:10:10 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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Ulysses S. Grant

Is there a worse person on one of the common denominations of money than this guy? He's frequently on historians' top worst Presidents lists.

9 posted on 04/06/2017 5:10:37 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

The “historians” that compile this list are leftist creeps. Generally they list FDR and Washington as number one, and Reagan way down the list.


10 posted on 04/06/2017 5:13:52 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Trump20162020
He's frequently on historians' top worst Presidents lists.

Well, he can thank God for Carter, Clinton and now...Obama.

11 posted on 04/06/2017 5:15:24 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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To: reg45

Thought so because. I’ve been all over the Shiloh battlefield. I think my great, great grandpa, his brother and his brothers son fought there.


12 posted on 04/06/2017 5:18:37 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Bull Snipe

Battle of Shiloh:

https://www.nps.gov/abpp/battles/tn003.htm

http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/shiloh.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shiloh


13 posted on 04/06/2017 5:26:21 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Bull Snipe

And then he kicked their asses on the way to Vicksburg.


14 posted on 04/06/2017 5:28:41 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Brace. Brace. Brace. Heads down. Do not look up.)
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To: Bull Snipe

Quite a history lesson there Bull-snipe.

“Shiloh. Pittsburg Landing. April 6 - 7, 1862. Hardin County, Tennessee.”

and a pretty far piece from the Mississippi River.


15 posted on 04/06/2017 5:29:11 AM PDT by Tupelo
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To: Trump20162020; Jimmy Valentine

Those lists of the best/worst presidents are almost always crap.

That said, while it was true that Grant was not a great President, he was not the worst, and beyond that, he is not the corrupted man that history has portrayed him as.

He is guilty of trusting people he should not have, and remaining loyal to people long after they had shown they did not deserve his loyalty. I chalk this up to his military career and the inclination of good general officers to listen to the advice of his subordinates, which does not always translate to civilian service. In the military, subordinates are often trying to achieve a common goal with their superior, that of winning a battle or war, since they both have “skin in the game”.

In the civilian world, that is an assumption that can get a chief executive in trouble, in our out of public service, because subordinates may often have wildly different goals, often centered around personal income.

Just my opinion.


16 posted on 04/06/2017 5:47:48 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: Vermont Lt

I think highly of General Grant. Robert E. Lee apparently did too, after Appomattox. He was a gracious victor.

His memoirs are fascinating to read. Difficult time to be a General, and difficult time to be a President.


17 posted on 04/06/2017 5:51:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: rlmorel

I’ll have to admit that that cigar chewing wino butcher was a good writer.


18 posted on 04/06/2017 5:52:46 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Trump20162020

I would vote Andrew Jackson is far, FAR worse to have on our money.

I admit I enjoy Andrew Jackson as an interesting historic figure, and it is hard not to admire his focused determination, relentnessness, and fearlessness as a President, a military man, and as a person. He was a man to be feared, and a wiry wisp of a man at that.

But I don’t admire his politics nor his service as President. It is said that his Presidency was the forerunner of the completely corrupted politics we have honed to a fine edge since then.


19 posted on 04/06/2017 5:56:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: central_va

He knew how to fight as well. He had the resources and manpower to defeat his foes, but as we saw early in that war, it was not enough. I know you are a man of the South and I respect that, but that doesn’t change the fact the Grant was indeed the man for that time on the Union side.

It is true Grant made plenty of mistakes, but so too did famous generals such as Patton and others in various wars, who made up for those mistakes with brilliance, persistence, aggressiveness, and relentlessness.

I don’t place much stock in the negative aspects of Grant’s drinking, though. One has only to look at men such as Winston Churchill (and for me, my father) to realize that daily consumption of alcohol does not incapacitate or significantly diminish the capability of all men. (While not denying that there are plenty of men who do become both incapacitated and diminished)


20 posted on 04/06/2017 6:06:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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