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On is date in 1863

Posted on 03/18/2017 3:48:02 AM PDT by Bull Snipe

About 50 women rioted in Salisbury, N.C. over the scarcity of flour and salt to feed their families. They blamed local businesses for speculating on flour and other necessities. By the end of the day they acquired 23 barrels of flour and 2 sacks of salt.


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1 posted on 03/18/2017 3:48:02 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

OMG Its Venezuela! NOT! Back during that time period, there were no grocery stores like Food Lion, Harris Teeter, Publix etc. Maybe General Stores. Were they wearing pink kitteh hats?

Does anybody remember when Food Town became Food Lion? I remember as a child, the owners of that franchise, taking down Food XoXn (Food Town) and replacing just two letters, making the franchise name Food Lion. I am in North Carolina, so YMMV.


2 posted on 03/18/2017 4:01:10 AM PDT by Klemper
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To: Bull Snipe

Back then they rioted over flour and salt today they riot over...like feminism and stuff.


3 posted on 03/18/2017 4:05:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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To: Bull Snipe

The riots in NYC in 1863 make this “riot” look like a Sunday outing.


4 posted on 03/18/2017 4:26:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Klemper

Since March 18, 1863 places this event, roughly in the middle of Civil War, and in the south, I would say is is a portion of what is referred to as the “southern bread riots”.

Notes:

Were done mostly by women. Men were at war if could be.

And these women did blame everything else for their misfortune and some maybe ‘rightly so’.

However like in any civil unrest/war, or any other discontinuity in the public peace, there was unethical speculation by southern business men at this time and it resulted in businesses being burned and destroyed.

This had nothing to do with anything, except that people at home, during war, can often go crazy when affronted with the ‘rude’ elements of war such as deprivation and starvation.

God, I love cofffeee


5 posted on 03/18/2017 4:28:48 AM PDT by honurider (no one is more indoctrinated then the indoctrinator)
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To: central_va

Privation would only grow worse in the South. By 1864 a barrel of flour cost over a hundred CSA dollars. They learned to late that you cannot turn cotton into flour.


6 posted on 03/18/2017 5:07:31 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: Klemper

I vaguely recall Food Town....just vaguely. I got my start at the old Big Bear that became Food World and is now a Food Lion.

(As I understand, it was a different chain from the Ohio based Big Bear...)

Ahh memories...bag boy par excellence....LOL


7 posted on 03/18/2017 5:17:28 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Bull Snipe

Their was actually a lot of food in the South during the war but the CSA quartermaster corp so corrupt, beyond belief, a lot of product was kept in warehouses and sold on the black market..


8 posted on 03/18/2017 5:18:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

This is true to some extent. In 1862, a drought greatly reduced the volume of oats, corn, and wheat produced in the South. 1863 & 1864 were good years for food crop production, but a large amount of that food stuff was lost due to the lack of labor to harvest it. By late 1864 the food situation in the South was becoming a critical issue.
Lack of labor, and a distribution systems that was on the verge of collapse meant crops were not harvested, and if harvested, could not be transported to the cities where it was need most.


9 posted on 03/18/2017 5:45:55 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: Bull Snipe

It was feast or famine. I’ve read stories where the troop had too much food then two months later nothing.


10 posted on 03/18/2017 5:49:01 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Adder

and, Food Lion is a Belgian corporation


11 posted on 03/18/2017 5:51:45 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hillary is Ameritrash, pass it on)
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To: central_va

That was the ineptness of the Confederate Armies Quartermasters and a transportation system coming unhinged.
Food was there. Some of Sherman’s soldiers recorded that they actually gained weight while marching through Georgia.


12 posted on 03/18/2017 5:56:33 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
"today they riot over...like feminism and stuff."

What's the matter Honey....a little too much cheese on the taco..?

:)

13 posted on 03/18/2017 5:58:59 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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To: Bull Snipe

“crops were not harvested, and if harvested, could not be transported to the cities where it was need most.”

This never changes. If the deep state or whatever it is wins out and CWII starts, the cities will starve in more ways than one, and that’s where the vast majority of libs live.


14 posted on 03/18/2017 5:59:24 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: Bull Snipe

Another mistake was the CSA banned sutlers from following camps because the CSA QA Corp didn’t want the competition. Pure corruption. Northern sutlers provided a valuable service.


15 posted on 03/18/2017 6:00:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

True. They provided the soldiers with nice little things that the QM didn’t issue. Tobacco, canned fruits, pies & cakes, condensed milk (until the QM started issue) tea, all thinks that added a modicum of pleasure to the drab issue of the QM. The army policed the sutlers very closely, and those that were found to be gouging the soldiers were run out of camp and not allowed to sell their wares to the troops.


16 posted on 03/18/2017 6:10:09 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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***By 1864 a barrel of flour cost over a hundred CSA dollars. ***

I believe a barrel of flour also cost $100 USA currency in that same year in Denver Colorado, because of the Indian wars.
It was believed Southern agitators kept the tribes stirred up against the Union. Many of the Plains Indians, except the Pawnee and “Pin” Indians, from Canada to Mexico supported the South.


17 posted on 03/18/2017 7:45:46 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: bert

Since 1974, I think, yes.

I recall a Ralph Ketner...just as a name...out of Salisbury...

wonder if they were related to the flour and salt hoarders...j/k


18 posted on 03/18/2017 7:57:35 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Thanks


19 posted on 03/18/2017 8:11:35 AM PDT by Bull Snipe (ueewl ocwe)
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